Let's have some bastards around here!

[Frodo52]

One hole in historical accuracy of the game has been nagging me lately.

Where are all the bastards?

It was not at all uncommon for Medieval nobility to sire bastard children and then raise them to positions of power. One of the kings of England had a score of known bastards and countless others. Bastard children led campaigns and governed cities. All the things that family members do now.

I need that manpower.

What would it take to add bastards into the family tree? There could be a chance per turn for a bastard child to be added to the line (with lower piety, unmarried, and randy family members more likely than high piety ones to father bastards).

Bastards could be born with an "illegitimate" trait that would lower authority if they ever rose to the throne. And would have a wider range of genetic traits than their legitimate siblings due to their, uh, more random , er. You get the picture.

Is it possible?

[BoJaN]

There already is a trait for Bastards.

[kelvintyk]

I have one. 0 command, 0 piety, 0 loyalty, 0 chivalry and 0 dread.

[Henry X]

I have one. 0 command, 0 piety, 0 loyalty, 0 chivalry and 0 dread.

I bet he's the only family member still alive

[kelvintyk]

I bet he's the only family member still alive

....No, in fact he is squatting in Durazzo. One of my smallest and most useless town. Couldn't find any use for him after all.

[Skibbles]

You could always recruit general's bodyguard from castles and pretend they are bastards.

[Hesus de bodemloze]

it would be a nice idea for these bastards thy could be given the titel grand bastard what could give them some bether traits?

[kelvintyk]

Grand bastard trait, -10 piety, -10 command, -10 loyalty, -10 chivalry. Now thats what i call a bastard. The dude would pretty useless then.

[Hesus de bodemloze]

Grand bastard trait, -10 piety, -10 command, -10 loyalty, -10 chivalry. Now thats what i call a bastard. The dude would pretty useless then.

if a bastard was granted the titel of grand bastard he had a good posision he would be given control over an army ore diplomatic duties he even had a titel and lands. many other bastards would be jealous about this.

[SDThielking]

As a dedicated HRE player, I can assure you all of the bastards are just south of Staufen. Damned dirty crossbow spamming Milanese...

[Marine Hoplite]

I've already gotten the title "horrible bastard"......................................................oh, you mean in the game!

[kelvintyk]

You, horrible bastard??

[Landwalker]

One hole in historical accuracy of the game has been nagging me lately.

Where are all the bastards?
...
Bastards could be born with an "illegitimate" trait that would lower authority if they ever rose to the throne.

Is it possible?

Yep, it's possible. Not only is it possible, but it's already there: I didn't fiddle with anything; this sucker occurred entirely on his own.

Cheers.

[kelvintyk]

He ain't that bad. Much better than my previous general in my byzantine campaign who had nothing at all and is not deemed as a bastard.

[y2day]

Alexander Jablokov:

“The road to truth is long, and lined the entire way with annoying bastards.”


General George S. Patton: (my favorite)
“No poor bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making other bastards die for their country.”



Shakespear:

“I grow, I prosper;
Now, gods, stand up for bastards!”



Volo the Bastard now thats funny!!!!

[The_Richini]

In my current game my English King has a bastard son, he started off pretty bad but after a successful crusade I made him King of Jerusulem and he became quite skilled, thing is he is the English king's only son and the random current faction heir is really old, so hopefully the bastard will become the new one

[Landwalker]

In my current game my English King has a bastard son, he started off pretty bad but after a successful crusade I made him King of Jerusulem and he became quite skilled, thing is he is the English king's only son and the random current faction heir is really old, so hopefully the bastard will become the new one

Incidentally, with the death of Vsevolod, Volodislav the Bastard is the new Faction Heir, next in line behind Grand Duke Vladimir the Chivalrous.

Cheers.

[kelvintyk]

So that makes him a bastard king.

[Vasquez]

What about total bastard?