The Candidates Campaign thread! (Election 3)

**Kritias** · November 23, 2007, 03:33 PM

Senators of the Republic;Once again we vote for those that will represent us as a lawful government!Here is the place to begin your political campaigns!

THE RULES:
a)Anyone can post here to support himself or any other senator he wishes to see voted for!

b)You CAN post replies to those who offended you...Get dirty!

c)Personal insults or flame posts are out of the question(TWC rules)

d)Feel free to use anything you or your opponents have said or done to guarantee you victory or destroy their reputation...

e)GENERAL RULE:Be fair to other senators;or unfair,I really don't care!

**68 Powers** · November 24, 2007, 11:15 AM

Aqulia Decimus Cato
For Tribune of the Plebs!

My opponent Gaius Furius Aquilinus has never spoken for you plebs
I think more of the plebs than my oppenent! You are respected in my mind as much
as the Patrician of Roma.

I will speak for the plebs and nothing but the plebs, i hear their cries and
now i must take those cries into action into the senate, i have seen very few senators speak for our Plebs and now it is time for their voice to be heard!

I Aqulia Decimus Cato have been a gerat speaker and now i think it is time to use it for the ones who have nothing.. Use it to make Roma Shine just a little bit more!

Gaius Furius Aquilinus is no speaker of the plebs.. just a Senator trying to get in an office.. He will not tend to your needs, Plebs and Senators alike, Elect me!
Aqulia Decimus Cato for tribune of Plebs and you will not be let down.
This i promise to you Plebs and senators of our great republic!

Aqulia Decimus Cato
For Tribune of the Plebs!

**Kritias** · November 24, 2007, 11:50 AM

VOTE FOR: QUINTUS
CORNELIUS
REGULUS
AS SENIOR CONSUL!!!!!!

A response to Publicola's "vote me" post...Let the campaigning begin,Plebeian Lover...

ooc:that was a joke,do go at an uproar saying that I don't love the people etc...

**♔Jean-Luc Picard♔** · November 24, 2007, 11:49 AM

VOTE
Gaius Furius Aquilinus
AS YOUR TRIBUNE OF THE PLEBS

My opponent, Senator Cato says that i do not speak for the Plebeians.
If this is true, why have you voted me as your Tribune III separate times?
I was most recently your Junior Consul.
If you have shown such faith in me in recent times,
why throw your lots in with a man who has held no, if any, influential office in many years?
He says he will speak for your rights.
I have spoken for your rights.
He says I am trying only to get this office for personal gain.
You know I wish to be elected for your gain.
So tell me, who shall you support?
He who has proven himself to you, or he who attempts to slander the proven?

VOTE
Gaius Furius Aquilinus
AS YOUR PROVEN TRIBUNE OF THE PLEBS

**Marcus Licinius** · November 24, 2007, 11:51 AM

As you all know i am a candidate for the Tribune Milientum for the new consul. May the Gods give him victory over our foes.
The Legion is my life

**68 Powers** · November 24, 2007, 12:21 PM

Senator gaius.
when have you spoken for the people?
I have spoken for the people more than you senator!
You have proven nothing except a absent Junior Consvl!
Why vote for a man who lies to you?
The reason why i voted for you is cause your the only senator of them who looks like he would fight for the people.. as for those three spereate times you have done nothing so those 3 seperate times are now 3 seperate times you have proven me wrong and done nothing for the people!
You have done as much for people as those greek dogs have!
It is time for a new age an age where the people are not represented by shadows such as my oppenant has proven.

So people of Roma, he has proven something to you all indeed.. that he is nothing but a shadow when it comes to the people. That is what this man has proven and that i promise on All of the gods stones!

Aqulia Decimus Cato
For Tribune of the Plebs!

OCC: finally some good campaignings

**EmperorCharles** · November 24, 2007, 12:46 PM

I will not stand here and give out promise after promise and empty words. if you wish to see actions not words vote for me Lucius Sextus Drusus as junior consul.

**We shall fwee...Wode** · November 24, 2007, 01:56 PM

VOTE ME!!!!!!!!! Pvblicola, Senior Consul

I am the voice of the people. I am the voice of the soldiers. I have their voice and they shall have my ears. I will lead Rome from these chaotic time, and into the future. A bright Future. A ROMAN FUTURE!

That is, of course, if you

VOTE ME!!!!!!!!!

OOC: Do I have what it takes? Check the save game challenge, http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...23#post2414723.

Only rp is allowed in campaigns. Your exploits in this thread should be disregarded.

Winter

**Kritias** · November 24, 2007, 03:00 PM

Vote Quintus Cornelius Regulus
FOR
SENIOR CONSUL

Senators and People of Rome;

My name is Quintus of the Gens Cornelia,called Regulus. I am here to announce to all Rome that I will run yet again for Senior Consul.

The Republic is at a stalemate,Senators; We have to face Epirots,Carthaginians,Etruscans and only the Gods know who else. That is why I say that we need a strong leadership;I can provide that leadership,people of Rome. You all witnessed my determination during my first Consulate; the Republican forces were unbeatable under my firm and able command. Will you demand anything less no that we are in a crisis as before?

You want to see results made:
That is what a Cornelian can deliver!

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=131251

SPONSORED BY GENS CORNELIA: THE MAKING OF GREAT GENERALS AND STATESMEN IS OUR HONOR AND TRADITION!

**Winter** · November 24, 2007, 04:08 PM

Senator, I can attest from personal experience that you did not leave the republic in a good position. When I took the reins, we were overextended. We were under attack in the north, with most of our army in the south. Our legions were battered and broken; I realize you had just fought Pyrrhus, but you took substantial losses. It is amazing to me that we have survived with the army we now have, against the determined and experienced armies of Epirus.

I cannot in good conscience return you to the Consulship when the Res Publica is in such shape. I am sorry to have to say this my friend, but I must support noble Publicola.

Also vote Lepidus as tribune!

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How's that for campaigning?

**Kritias** · November 24, 2007, 05:20 PM

Quintus Cornelius Regulus goes in front of the People of Rome,apparently annoyed by the last oration against him. He moves slowly to the Podium,with his eyes looking the floor.Those that know him best understand that his is extremely angry.However,once upon the podium,his expression changes entirely. He looks determined when he looks at the people gathered,he takes a short breath and says:

I am grieved and surprised by your sayings,Consul Lepidus;
Was I really that bad?
I think not.

During my term I fought a total of 9,415 enemies of the Republic; I killed them all loosing 2133 soldiers.Are these casualties "substantial",when considering the fact that we had to deal with enemies better equipped and trained?Let me just remind you that you fought against the 1/3 of the enemies I did and lost nearly 1/2 the number I did(1088 dead).

You also claim that I overextended the Res Publica; Let me remind you that I followed the will of the Senate;You wanted Pyrrhus gone and the epirote cities under Rome's dominion and I did just that. I am surprised when you say that I have harmed the Republic,that I have let Her battered and undefended.I am surprised because when I was Consul all you did was celebrate happily after each victory; You even gave me a Triumph for that matter.So,what changed your mind and now I am a liability for the Republic?

You claim the situation I handed over was bad; Only you could be Consul when Pyrrhus was around!Then you would witness something bad...I am very disappointed by this public declaration against me,Lepidus. However,I understand that anyone can have his own opinion on a man;that is the price of success after all.

I will say no more nor I will campaign more on these elections; If though the other senators feel the same as you do,friend Lepidus - that I am a liability and not fit to rule Rome,something that they will reveal by their votes - then I guess its my time to retire from senatorial service.Time to go to my fields and attend my harvests until my final days; its the only dignified thing to do. I would rather die than live in the shame of what you accused me of just now;

Quintus Cornelius Regulus waves at his guard and leaves hastily...

**Winter** · November 24, 2007, 05:35 PM

Senator, you claim to have been following the will of the senate when you pushed headlong into Tarentum: I say there is a time for servitude and a time for leadership. You cannot deny that, had some troops been left in reserve, we could have taken the fight to Eutria's door. Instead, we must be content with breaking a siege on a fort, the Eutrian leader still ruling Arretium.

You should have told us we were overextending ourselves, you should have had that forethought. It is true that hindsight is 20/20, but this is something we expect in our highest elected officials

Worst of all, you accepted that triumph when there was so much left to do. Your vanity lead you to take our highest award, proclaim that you were triumphed

Originally Posted by your sig

for defeating the Epirot menace.

For shame, senator. You should have turned that award down at once. Warned us the fight, the Hell we had, and have yet, to go through. And you should have helped guide us through it. That is what we expect in a leader.

I do not believe this is something you can handle.

**Kritias** · November 24, 2007, 06:35 PM

Quintus Cornelius Regulus,hearing all these,return to the podium.His expression reveals nothing,in fact he looks as calm as a cup of water. He starts moving up the stairs,looking around him;Many look at him with hope,others with discontent. When he finally reaches the Podium,he turns and smiles at Lepidus.Then with renewed strength,he speaks to the people:

I am most sorry that some feel that way;
The truth though is that I tried to do what is best for the Republic with the resources available at the time.The Republic faced nearly 6,000 Greeks in Italy and 3,000 Carthaginians close to Capua. What would you have me do? I did what the senate wanted,what the senate have voted me to do;I protected the Republic by killing these enemies.

You wished me to take on the Etruscans?You had only to ask. You wished me to avoid the conquest of Southern Italy and defend the Ager Romanus instead of expanding it? You should have motioned that in the senate,not accuse me of lack of forethought on the aftermath of the campaign.

The senate wanted me to march to Tarentum;Otherwise when I told you that I planned to do that,you would have vetoed the proposal down.
The senate wanted me to focus on the South instead of the North;If not,I would be instructed to maintain a legion north instead of what armies I could spare.

You are seeking leadership,Lepidus; Is there anything more proving for having this virtue that the fact that the legions were victorious every single time?Anything more proving from the fact that no enemy has crossed our borders and lived?You wished to be told what to do,where to stop,expand,go or where to fight?Then what you want senator is a dictator,not a Consul; I did my duty at the best of my potential. Was it enough? I believe it was.

That is the reason I accepted the triumph you offered me; Because it seemed at the time that you recognized my value;But I was wrong to do so.
Yes - I let vanity get the best of me; Yes - I was overjoyed to be recognized for my accomplishments.I can't help but have these vices;no man is perfect,Lepidus.And in a side note,the best of men are always those with the worst vices of all;Remember Alexandros.Whatever the reasons though for accepting the triumph,it doesn't limit the service I did to Rome.I conquered cities for Rome;I defeated near 10,000 enemies for Rome;I killed Tyrant Pyrrhus for Rome - and I accepted a triumph for me;

Does the above imply that I am not fit to rule Rome? That is up to you Senators. Though I believe,whatever many may think of me,that I am as able as any man here to be Consul and lead the Republican Legions; That I need not prove.

**Winter** · November 24, 2007, 07:07 PM

I did not say that we wished for a dictator. Surely we were all very glad you followed our orders to the letter. But when those orders are bringing us to the brink, and there may be better paths to take, that is when the senior Consul needs to speak up. I do not recall you once disputing a decision, or a motion proposed, by the senate. Your faith in the senate is admirable, Consul, but do you not find it odd that the very next term we were fighting for our lives when we should have been pushing back against the Greek menace?

I had to retreat with my men to the top of a mountain to defend against the Epriotes. I had to bring the garrison of the eternal city to the aid of the northern fort. surely your odds were hard, but so hard that you could not leave proper reserves?

And do you mean to compare yourself to Alexandros, or more precisely Alexandros' vices, or was that a slip of the tongue?

**Kritias** · November 24, 2007, 07:27 PM

Quintus Cornelius Regulus speaks:

You mean to say that the elected men of Rome,the best chance for our survival must not be trusted? I cannot understand why you think it is good in a period of crisis to go against the lawful government and do whatever you believe right instead of doing your duty!

If you want to know,I saw that the proposals of the senators were feasible;that on its own is a reason to never disrupt a decision or motion.I must also inform you that the duty of a Consul is to carry out the will of the senate at the best of his abilities,not to do be a politician during his term.

Lastly I am surprised by your stance to blame my leadership for every wrong happened.Am I to be blamed if the Epirotes landed more men during your time in office?Also the Etruscans...they were 300 men of them?I let that threat to be dealt by the next Consul and I have informed the senate of my intention not to chase after the Etruscans.You seem to try and attack me with anything I say;the reference on great Alexandros was a proof that all men,no matter how great or low,are full of vices;That is also my case.

**Winter** · November 24, 2007, 09:13 PM

I mean you mislead us with your complacency! Your office is meant to show leadership, to guide this civic body. What you did was agree with every suggestion made, without so much as a whimper of argument for the other side.

The Etruscans had a 2500 man army marching to join the siege. It was only the quick breaking of the siege that sent them scurrying back to Eutria.