Who wrote the bible?

[Roman Knight]

Roman scholars or Mathew, Mark, Luke and John.

Who do you think wrote it. Discuss.

[jankren]

If Matthew and co were the authors then the books in the Bible won't start with 'According to Matthew, According to Mark, According to Luke, etc.

[Roman Knight]

If Matthew and co were the authors then the books in the Bible won't start with 'According to Matthew, According to Mark, According to Luke, etc.

Their scribes would have written it

[Zenith Darksea]

Seems like a pretty pointless debate. The Gospels have all been dated to the mid to late 1st century AD when hardly any Romans had become Christian, and at any rate, there is no evidence to show that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John did not write them.

[Captain Blackadder]

Well it certainly was not Matthew or Luke or any of the "credited" authors this is seen in the many times when they are refered to in the third person and when they refer to their own deaths like moses and Joshua does.

Some people think that the New Testement was written in the 4th Century by Constantine and his council. But overall the authorship of the bible is most likely people whose names have been lost to the sands of history.

[ThiudareiksGunthigg]

Some people think that the New Testement was written in the 4th Century by Constantine and his council.

"Some people" think all kinds of crap. Considering we have quotes from the gospels in other works dating from the Second Century and manuscript fragments dating from the Second and Third Centuries, Constantine "and his council" would have had to not only write the NT but also invent a time machine and gone back a couple of centuries to plant evidence to fool silly modern scholars.

Or maybe "some people" just write a load of garbage on kooky websites that really should be totally ignored. Take your pick.

[AngryTitusPullo]

Who wrote the Bible ? Depends on which parts of the bible you're looking at.

Basically AFAIK there are 3 types of verses in the bible.

First, which can be attributed to God (especially in the OT) using the first person pronoun. For example:

I even, I am the Lord, and beside me there is no saviour. (Isaiah 43:11)

Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the end of the earth: for I am God, and there is non else. (Isaiah 45:22)

Second, can be attributed to the prophet, using the first person pronoun. For example:

"And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord:" (Mark 12:29)

"And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God." (Mark 10:18).

Lastly, the bulk of the bible are written from the historians point of view (whoever they are).

"And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he, (JESUS) came, if haply he (JESUS) might find anything thereon: and when he (JESUS) came to it, (Jesus) found nothing but leaves . . ." (Mark 11:13)

[removeduser_487563287433]

The Old Testament comes from multiple sources recorded over hundreds of years and greatly influenced by the surrounding cultures, the most obvious example of this being the flood myth.

The New Testament is written by early Christians.

[basics]

The first five books of the Old Covenant are credited to Moses. The additions spoken of were incorporated to tell of the death of Moses by others nonetheless inspired as Moses was. This information comes from Unger's Bible Dictionary. It is not oneline rubbish as are some of the remarks spoken on this forum. The amount of information worthy of reading is beyond my capabilities to transfer at the present but in time who knows.

The ancient Hebrews divided the lot into 3 distinct classes, the total being 24 books but were later broken down in the English order to number 39. The division of Samuel, Kings and Chronicles into two books each plus the minor prophets being given 12 books rather than one book over all. The three being the Law, the Prophets and the Writings. Overall there is no evidence that most wasn't written directly by the names as headed in the Scriptures and or scribes as directed by the names.

Of the New Covenant the books disputed consisted of James, Jude, II and III John and II Peter but were accepted as Scripture most probably by the councils of Laodicea around 363 AD. The others were accepted around 170 AD, some even earlier. The language with which most is written is consistent with the Greek of the time as proved by other manuscripts found in Egypt among others.

However since Jesus birth, around 4 BC and His death around 29-30 AD this leaves only some 140 years or less for the Gospels to be written. But as most, if not all, of the writers would be dead by then and there is no evidence that they didn't write or even dictate their recollections it stands to reason that what manuscripts we do have are not the originals but copies.

For we do know that the church had a practise of writing one to another especially as opposition gathered a pace as told of by Saul of Tarsus later given the name Paul and Luke. So it is ludicrous to say that the Scriptures are false or inventions of men at a later date. There are thousands of manuscripts relating to these times and they do contain what Paul would call deviation from the Gospel and that is why they themselves are not included.

The point being that there is enough evidence to the life of Jesus Christ, inspired or not to conclude that He did live and die as Scripture tells. Can anyone doubt that if God wanted His story told that He would have it done by devious means? Yet that is what the opposition to Scripture is saying. One would think that Scripture has never been subject to the highest scrutiny by men of distinction believers and unbelievers from various fields.

[Erwin Rommel]

the concept of bible compiled at maybe the 4rth century.................by the Church.....................

[Blau&Gruen]

Leonard Cohen wrote the Bible.

[Ummagumma]

Leonard Cohen wrote the Bible.

I'd be much more inclined to believe any of it if he did!

[Blau&Gruen]

I'd be much more inclined to believe any of it if he did!

Repend!

He sings in the song "The Future" in the 4th strophe:
"I'm the little jew who wrote the Bible"



You see, it is Leonard Cohen who wrote the Bible.

[Zenith Darksea]

Well it certainly was not Matthew or Luke or any of the "credited" authors this is seen in the many times when they are refered to in the third person and when they refer to their own deaths like moses and Joshua does.

It was the standard practice among ancient authors to refer to themselves in the third person. Take Caesar's memoirs for example, which consistently state things like, "Caesar replied that..." and "Caesar picked ten men from the legion..."

As for mentioning their own deaths, I really am not aware that any of the authors of the Gospels do this. Could you give a citation?

[Blau&Gruen]

It was the standard practice among ancient authors to refer to themselves in the third person.

It is very rare that authors out themselves outside of the roman and greek world in antiquity. It might not have been so important to let everybody know, who contributed what to which composition. It seems, there was more prestige bound to the work, if it could be brought into connection with an alleged famous person of a time long before the actual production, even gods could for that reason be refered as having been the authors of works of writing. Such kinds of 'fantastic' derivations were also not unknown in the roman and greek tradition.

[Captain Blackadder]

It was the standard practice among ancient authors to refer to themselves in the third person. Take Caesar's memoirs for example, which consistently state things like, "Caesar replied that..." and "Caesar picked ten men from the legion..."

As for mentioning their own deaths, I really am not aware that any of the authors of the Gospels do this. Could you give a citation?

Moses
So Moses....DIED... and he (God Almighty) BURIED HIM (Moses)... He was 120 years old WHEN HE DIED... and there arose not a prophet SINCE in Israel like unto Moses....(Deuteronomy 34:5-10)"

Joshua

"And it came to pass after these things, that Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of the Lord, DIED, … And they BURIED HIM … And Israel served the Lord all the days of Joshua, and all the days of the elders that over lived Joshua, and which had known all the works of the Lord, that he had done for Israel ….(Joshua 24:29-33)"

But basically the bible seems to have been writtan by a group of people not the people who the bible says wrote it except for a few exceptions like Paul . Basically we are never going to know who wrote the bible.

[basics]

Captain Blackadder,

So how could Moses and Joshua record in writing their own deaths? They couldn't and these are the additions made by others so that the record is complete. It doesn't detract from what either did or why they did it.

Indeed the writers who filled in the deaths and burials of these two were considered by later Jewish authorities to be just as inspired as were the two, thus the additions being accepted as the word of God.

[Blau&Gruen]

Basically we are never going to know who wrote the bible.

Yes and no.

[Domnul Ceaşcă]

The bible wasn`t written by a single man, the bible is like a series of comic books glued togheter to make one.

[The Good]

Who really wrote the Bible?

Not one person, not four, not ten, not twenty, but a little over forty. Around forty people, of various walks of life (kings, priests, shepherds, etcetera) wrote the Bible. This oldest book of the Bible is probably the book of Job, not Genesis, which is the most common misconception.