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    Default Way to choose heir?

    We all know that the fact you can't choose your own heir in Medieval 2 is, at best, annoying, and, at worst, infuriating. Since I would much rather be thinking about Medieval 2 than thinking about analyzing four articles on Byzantine influence on Italian panel painting in the thirteenth century, I struck upon an idea out of the blue and was wondering if it would actually work.

    The idea run something like this: Upon the accession of a new Faction Leader, that man receives a Retinue thinger that represents the position of faction heir, much like he currently receives things like Lord Chancellor and Privy Seal that he may dole out to his generals as he sees fit. He would then dole out this "Heir Retinue", in effect publicly proclaiming his heir. When he dies, whichever general has the Heir retinue becomes the new Faction Leader, perhaps based on some scripty-thing that's beyond my meager powers of modding comprehension.

    In any case, I thought I'd throw it out there so those more knowledgeable than I in the matter could shoot it down as impractical, impossible, or stupid. In any case, if something like that could be arranged, it would be awfully handy as a way to get around the annoying "game-mandated faction heir" issue we currently have.

    Cheers.

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    If that could be done in any way I would be elated. I've taken a policy of never adopting into the royal line because of this.

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    Not possible sadly. This question has been asked on the mod workshop forums many times all with the same answer, in that the choice of heir is hardcoded and cannot be changed through an ancillary or a trait. Even if you manually delete the "faction heir" trait from the actual heir and give it to another family member, the first guy will still be the heir.

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    It is possible.. I know it is.. We just need a programmer..

    *Sigh*

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    Default Re: Way to choose heir?

    Quote Originally Posted by whhyy View Post
    It is possible.. I know it is.. We just need a programmer..

    *Sigh*
    It's not a matter of programming. It's not something that is accessible through modding, i.e. is is embedded in the game engine itself that cannot be changed through modding. Just the same as you cannot have more than 500 units in the EDU.

    What we need a game that is fully moddable. None of these namby-pamby hardcoded limits

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    Default Re: Way to choose heir?

    I wish

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    yes ...
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    Maybe the heir could be elected just like cardinals get elected to be pope, with the most competent generals being candidates. their authority level could determine who makes a chance.

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    Default Re: Way to choose heir?

    Conceptually, that wouldn't make sense for a lot of the factions in the game. Besides, who would be voting? The player against... what?

    Which raises in my mind a question completely unrelated to both Stainless Steel and this thread, which is: How do papal elections go in hotseat campaigns?

    Cheers.

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    I think the first person gets to pick, and the others... well, get ignored and their votes are cast. (I was allied with my brother, and his votes always went to my cardinals)



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    Oh well, if nothing else the meat grinder method of heir selection is funny.

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    well only the player would elect. the votes could only come from generals from the faction. This would give some choice in the matter.

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    hm, my way is get the bastards killed until the one i want, just set them on a single boat and sent them hunting pirates ^^
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    I have never asked before but... why don't we ask CA to do it ? I know the too many difficulties but I guess a petition won't harm anyone. If we had, say, 1000 signatures...
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    Default Re: Way to choose heir?

    Quote Originally Posted by ConstantineVII View Post
    why don't we ask CA to do it ?
    Hah. Right. Good luck with that.

    Would that it were that simple.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConstantineVII View Post
    I have never asked before but... why don't we ask CA to do it ? I know the too many difficulties but I guess a petition won't harm anyone. If we had, say, 1000 signatures...
    If you go to the www.totalwarforums.com site, you can read the stalling techniques that CA has been using for patching Kingdoms issues...which "issues" they didn't plan on having to patch. It's amusing and maddening at the same time...they didn't budget for a bug-fix patch. So I can't imagine how a petition would help...

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