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    Default Fewer bad traits

    Frustrated with my characters constantly picking up bad traits, I toned them down a little bit and have posted the new traits files here. You should see fewer drunks, fewer homosexuals, and fewer otherwise inept governors. I also added a few new ways to increase a King's Authority, so you can actually hope for a ruler with more than 5 authority. Hope this helps.

    Note: These are the trait files with NO SUPPLY TRAITS.

    Extract the contents of the .zip file to your Stainless_Steel/data directory.
    Default of course is: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Stainless_Steel\data

    Back up your files, or just re-download the no supply traits files in this thread to use as backups: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=131031

    UPDATE: In the new file, I toned down traits such as "Dubious", "Extravagent tastes", etc. These are generally caused by the player amassing a large treasury, which seems not only easy but inevitable in this mod. However, if you're still keeping 150,000 or more florins turn after turn, you can expect your characters to continue to pick up these traits... so start unloading some of that cash!
    Last edited by Queen Annes Revenge; November 25, 2007 at 07:00 PM.

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    Default Re: Fewer bad traits

    cool
    Common sense removed due being Disruptive.

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    Default Re: Fewer bad traits

    Thanks a lot for your work.

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    Default Re: Fewer bad traits

    Awesome thanks a ton, I'll defiantly give it a shot.

    Perhaps you and Quark should compare notes, I know he's been working on some fixes for the trait system. Maybe you could save each other some work

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=111529

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    Sounds great, goes in the mod the second I get home!



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    Thanks queens annes revenege. Can you elaborate on what exactly are the changes?

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    Sounds good.

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    Default Re: Fewer bad traits

    I just lowered the probabilities of acquiring the drunk and homosexual traits. Nothing much really. Before, these probabilities were VERY high for any character who sat in a city (and the complaints on this forum reflect that).

    I should mention that if your faction had a large treasury (10,000+) with the original files, any character who sat in any city would expect to become useless really, really fast! I suspect this really hurt the AI's chance of ever having a decent commander as on VH they always stockpile a massive amount of florins.

    I also added an authority bonus to a few traits that I saw would fit, seeing as it's nearly impossible to get a King with even 7 or 8 authority. Examples include the great speaker traits, iron fisted, etc.

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    Works great, thanks

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    This is for 5.1 right?
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    Default Re: Fewer bad traits

    Quote Originally Posted by Okocim View Post
    This is for 5.1 right?
    Yes, please keep in mind also that this eliminates the supply traits.

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    I played some time with your changes now, QAR, and I must say I haven't got a single gay alcoholic yet ! Good work!

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    hah thanks mailor, but neither have I... and I'm becoming concerned that I may have lowered them too much. Time will tell with more testing, I suppose...

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    I suppose the new file does not work with saved games?

    And thank you for the awesome job Queen, I'll test the traits right away

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse View Post
    I suppose the new file does not work with saved games?
    It actually might be okay with a saved game as I did not remove any traits. You might as well give it a chance.

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    One gay man, one alcoholic, not all of them! I love it!

    EDIT: Yes, this worked with my saved games.



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    Default Re: Fewer bad traits

    Will this work with SS4.1?


    *fingers crossed*

    And Great job either way.




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    Quote Originally Posted by y2day View Post
    Will this work with SS4.1?
    Honestly, I don't know. I would say to back up your files and give it a shot!

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    Default Re: Fewer bad traits

    I could have sworn I already posted this, maybe I'm loosing my mind.

    Will this work in SS4.1?

    *fingers crossed*

    Good Job Queen

    edit* I swear that post above wasnt there until I entred this one. . sory about the double post
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    Default Re: Fewer bad traits

    What about these traits: "dubious" constantly get this for no reason, "title stolen" just for trading retinue, "troops weary" after only a few turns, "drunk on rum" or whatever for captains at see after a few turns.

    Are they toned down? if not can you?

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