Future map

[superdud]

I'd just like to start off by saying I love this mod. The idea of the "periods" is great! But the one thing that struck me while playing is the map. I noticed a few new added cities but over all it's pretty close to vanillas map. I will say the game is very fun and playable as is but I think with all the different factions CAE could really benifit from a large map. I was playing "The long road" mod for the longest time. It was fun and different but the one thing that I really likeed was the large map with lots of territories. It really helped with expansion and economy. I was just wondering if there were any plans to expand the map any more than it already is?

[Eranshahr]

I think there are in the future. But I am not sure myeslf.

[Zephrelial]

I'd just like to start off by saying I love this mod. The idea of the "periods" is great! But the one thing that struck me while playing is the map. I noticed a few new added cities but over all it's pretty close to vanillas map. I will say the game is very fun and playable as is but I think with all the different factions CAE could really benifit from a large map. I was playing "The long road" mod for the longest time. It was fun and different but the one thing that I really likeed was the large map with lots of territories. It really helped with expansion and economy. I was just wondering if there were any plans to expand the map any more than it already is?

Hello Superdud,welcome to the CAE subforum.

I'm glad to hear that you love the mod,and am especially glad to hear that you like the "periods/eras" feature.

To elaborate the current cities that takes in the CAE's map are not extensions to the map,but are obtained by the method of "dividing" rather than "extending" thanks to the efforts of various CAE/mtw2 enthusiasts.

For the future once the compulsorily improvements are successfully implemented I'll turn my attention to extending the map.However I'd like to emphasize that this probably won't be a major overhaul but rather extending the map at the points,where there is the accumulation of multiple factions,thus making that part of the map hard to extend and uncomfortable.

I hope this answers your question.

I think there are in the future. But I am not sure myeslf.

Hopefully there'll be an extension to the map in the future Eranshahr

[Victus Sagrada]

If ya do a bigger map...maybe you can just cut out the americas if ya need more room on the map or something.

Does anyone ever go to the Americas? I know I don't. edit: How can I forget the most important thing about bigger maps? It's not about the new settlements, it's about the Field Battles! The glorious clash of huge armies on the open ground or surprise ambushes with hit and run tactics to whittle down an overwhelming foe! That's why big maps > smaller maps. Sieges? Bah, don't get me started on those meat grinders, if your going to run away shouldn't they be going for a gate? Not the middle of town. thanks if ya bothered to read this double edit: do these forums not like Mozila Firefox? B/c the formating in posts goes screwy when I post or even try to re-edit.

[Zephrelial]

If ya do a bigger map...maybe you can just cut out the americas if ya need more room on the map or something.

Does anyone ever go to the Americas? I know I don't. edit: How can I forget the most important thing about bigger maps? It's not about the new settlements, it's about the Field Battles! The glorious clash of huge armies on the open ground or surprise ambushes with hit and run tactics to whittle down an overwhelming foe! That's why big maps > smaller maps. Sieges? Bah, don't get me started on those meat grinders, if your going to run away shouldn't they be going for a gate? Not the middle of town. thanks if ya bothered to read this double edit: do these forums not like Mozila Firefox? B/c the formating in posts goes screwy when I post or even try to re-edit.

Well cutting off the Americas were proposed several times before you did Victus..

Before I wasn't all for it,because I don't like removing anything unless adequate compensation is presented.As I indicated before in my some other posts,there may be the need of some extra spaces in some different regions of the current map,since the faction number now increased by two.

I don't know whether people will go to americas or whether it's fun anymore to fight the Aztecs there now that Kingdoms had been released and it has a whole detailed Americas campaign of its own...

In the future,there is a possibility that Americas can be cut to some extend (not the whole of it),like leaving a single city for the Aztecs,and the gain can be used to extend the map at some points.However as I said before this aspect had not been yet throughly thought.

Btw I use mozilla too but haven't experienced any particular problem when posting.. Maybe it's the vista.

[Victus Sagrada]

Hahaha it probably is Vista!!!

If it wasn't a new comp I'd have already thrown it out the window already.

[Zephrelial]

Hahaha it probably is Vista!!!

If it wasn't a new comp I'd have already thrown it out the window already.

I see.. Well why didn't you chose a computer including a windows xp in the pack in the first place ?

[Ataegina]

well kinda off-topic, but some computers manufactures like HP, (recently) have make agreements and stuff, with microsoft and build exclusive for vista like i've laptop wich have been build for vista, if you install another OS this ill not work at all =/

so they make you use vista (yes this is the aggressive tactice by microsoft face the concorrence)

[jimmy spong]

why , what is medieval outside of europe ? it wasnt so exciting in far east few factions were there maybe only colonies should be expanded .

[Ataegina]

why , what is medieval outside of europe ? it wasnt so exciting in far east few factions were there maybe only colonies should be expanded .

far east... well you should know CAE have a strong component on mideast factions,so makes sense be expanded,giving a change to build empires and increase the conflict on new far away lands!

[Eranshahr]

well it depends on how much you expand it. If you take it to the east, then the positives will be that the Mongols can start east of the caspian sea and the Khwarezmians in Urgench or Bukhara. But there would be a vast space between both of them, and the 2nd closest faction. It would be both fun and sad.

And far east, I think is china and those areas

And Jimmy, our western history books teach us european medieval history. But there were several kingdoms in the east who were strong. I think one of the most thundering ones where the Mongol empire.

Medieval total war would be fun, if only Europe, Asia and down to cenrtal Africa was in. with many factions on the map.

[Ataegina]

well it depends on how much you expand it. If you take it to the east, then the positives will be that the Mongols can start east of the caspian sea and the Khwarezmians in Urgench or Bukhara. But there would be a vast space between both of them, and the 2nd closest faction. It would be both fun and sad.

And far east, I think is china and those areas

And Jimmy, our western history books teach us european medieval history. But there were several kingdoms in the east who were strong. I think one of the most thundering ones where the Mongol empire.

Medieval total war would be fun, if only Europe, Asia and down to cenrtal Africa was in. with many factions on the map.

I admit our schools teach us very little of mideast history and unhappy allmost nothing about their history,its sadly like "evil muslims and stuff" sadly ...sadly

i hate agree with you Eranshahr *joking* but you're right

i think if map cover all caspian sea and lil of persia would be nice enough

also we should make riots at CA HQ !!!

[Eranshahr]

No wonder, long time ago we had history about Greco-persian wars. The book was so pro-greek it said we were inferior in science and education, that the persians were weak and those stuff. That greeks were better, so I remember my half greek classmate who started with " Iranians have always hit their women and Iranians are a new bad people from the sands" and she still claims cyprus is greek It is independant.

about the map. I really don't know. it would be fun if it reached Urgench at a maximum extent. But not mor eto the east.

[Ataegina]

i wouldn't never say persians are weak or any of those stuff, but its more easy manage small "kingdoms" and make it get more advanced, than manage huge empires!

so on this way its more easy greeks get better than persians,but this isn't about people, but management !

of course persian empire have much more manpower,resources,and another stuff,but its alot hard make it all work in one so huge huge huge empire!!

so if persian empire was more smaller,so this could be the inverse,and probably persians would beat greeks easly

huge empires have some disavantages

[Eranshahr]

Well not about who beats who. My quarrel with the greeks are which civilization was the most advanced As yu might know the greeks had that hippo guy and wrote EUROPEAN history. But what we had was engineers, scientists, and inventions. Of course the greeks had them too. But here is what I say, we did a lot of things who where the bases of modern inventions. Like the refrigirator, ( see Yakhchal or Yakhjal) And usage of alcohol in medecine ( the guy was persian through wrote texts in arabic) and Algebra ( which is the worst invention of them all)

Still not saying greeks are worse, jsut that tehy aren't better

And yes you are right about the small kingdoms stuff. But here comes the deal. the Iranians in the persian empire were good with each other, atleast most of the time. But the greeks fought each other.

But no you can say Persians are weak today, But we are naturally intelligent ( might be because our parents will unleash ultimate rage on us if we don't get high grades)

Still history was made this way, and I don't know why and if there was a meaning ( no not god) that things would become as they became. Either way, Iran has existed as a united aryan country since the human rights were created by Cyrus. about 2500 ago, and we are planning to stay 2500 years from this day on

and now to get back on real topics.
for 1.4 I really think some provinces should be created, not nececcarily map extention. rather in Europe, especially on the steppes. And also Arabia.

[Ataegina]

well i'm not on who beats who i was more about management stuff also i'm not just talking about greeks or persians, but in one global way

everyone have invented something, empires even small kingdoms, anyway like i said sometimes be good isnt the same of hold large lands, i believe persian army (only persian) its better than the other thousand armies from another parts of the empire ! why, because they're professional, and this can make the difference in battle

anyway americans are smart (they make coke-cola)

[Eranshahr]

Not only! they also made hamburgers, Brownies, WMD's ( oh wait, that wasn't a good thing)

I like food especially from different countries. I would love to create a street with food from most countries. ( except Sweden ebcause they don't have anything besides meatballs anyway)

[Ataegina]

here is how can a map thread become a brownies thread !!

lol

[superdud]

To be honest it's really interesting to get veiw points from other cultures/countries.