Awesome

[Firebat11]

Playing as Lithuania. Get a Crusade called against me (Vilnius). Now the entire map is at war with me (except England, Muslim factions, Byzantium and Kingdom of Jerusalem). OMG this is so good, yet so hard.

The only bad thing is that I defeated Teutonic Order (wiped them out. They have no settlements), but they don't die, so I can't possibly win since you HAVE to defeat them as part of the victory conditions.

P.S. BALTS skins for Lithuania are really good!!

[Caspand]

Dont they only have like 10 turns to take back a settlement after losing their last settlement before they are crushed and taken out of the game ?

I know this happens to the player if he lose his / her last settlement.

As far as i know Teutonic order dont have horde function, this is only a problem with mongols since you have to defeat every last man of them before they are whiped out.

Caspand

[y2day]

Dont they only have like 10 turns to take back a settlement after losing their last settlement before they are crushed and taken out of the game ?

I know this happens to the player if he lose his / her last settlement.

As far as i know Teutonic order dont have horde function, this is only a problem with mongols since you have to defeat every last man of them before they are whiped out.

Caspand

Man Kingdoms sounds awsome I had never heard of this feature.

[The_Richini]

Pherhaps the Teutonics are hideing in trees so they are not seeable?

In my game the Teutonic order when past Lithuania and right to Kiev but the Mongols kicked them out and then I had a pain trying to find them and they ended up hideing in some trees in Hungary lands!

[Firebat11]

No they can't be hiding, because I enabled the FOW just to check and make sure.

They are definitely NOT there. However, the Mongols were defeated and I got the message (AI defeated them).

Bug??

[The_Richini]

I believe you still cant see "hideing" forces with the FOW on from reading another post about a week ago.

[Ataegina]

teutonic order works like a horde !?

[Okocim]

in 5.1 KK mentioned that they emerge, so I bet they're cloaked waiting and biding their time while they scheme.

[Ataegina]

yes they emerge on early campaign...but on late camp. they start with 1 region, so this still the same ?

[Obit]

Having the same problem, my guess is they got a merchant or something somewhere that prevents them from being dead officially. They've flatlined on the Factions Ranking however.

[BoJaN]

Nah I believe you need at least 1 King, Family Member or General in order to survive so it cant be a random merchant somewhere. If you take out the enemies family tree with assassins their country will die and turn to rebel states.

[Ataegina]

hmmm but order dont have family members, they're all adopted (generals) sth like it ^_^ well at least in kingdoms

[Caspand]

Merchants dont count for anything when desiding if the faction is eliminated or not, they need at least 1 general ( elected king / ruler ). Teutonic will auto elect a family member to ruler, but it does indeed sound like a bug your having since they have no armies left.

Try saving your game and advance 15 / 20 turns and see if they get eliminated. and toggle FoW on and follow AI to see if they have some random army out there somewhere. My best guess really sorry

Man Kingdoms sounds awsome I had never heard of this feature.

This was also pressent in Mtw1 =) so not really a new feature, you do atleast get a chance to get back 1 settlement for a limited period, im not sure about the time frame there.

Also, it seems like in SS 5.1 that is your family is whiped out before your faction is, the AI will auto select a general to become your new ruler, i've seen alot of "the end of a dynasty" events where it tells me the line is dead and a general have been appointed ruler.

Caspand