Rating

[King Peter I]

I wanted this game but I bought Rome Total war instead because of why it is rated teen. Well i am asking here what is meant by "sexual themes" and "tobacco reverence" in Medieval II Total war.

[EMV]

My best guess would be the Marriage system, and the Americas.

[King Peter I]

Ah, you mean when it says "Marriage Celebration?"

[kelvintyk]

Sexual traits perhaps?

[EMV]

Ah, you mean when it says "Marriage Celebration?"

Yes, and the fact they have kids could be considered Sexual References.

[GrnEyedDvl]

Oh there are whores and mistresses too, and RTW has the Minion trait.

[♔ST0MPA♔]

the references are more so insome of the battlefield speechas

[miccofl]

the references are more so insome of the battlefield speechas

Indeed; to quote one of my generals speaking of the Moors: "sheep fondling donkey lovers..." That of course caused an immediate cleaning of my monitor screen

The game references bestiality, deviant sexual behavior, incest, alludes to rape, etc. and while none of it really plays out in anything other than text, the thought police won't tolerate such concepts being known by young ones (even though the real thing is readily available on the internet 24/7.)

[Empress Meg]

There are traits for characters that relate to their perferences to young boys and men. Priests have choir boys running about with them and the like. Greek stuff really lol.

The tobacco is not only for the Americas but also the smoking that goes on in the Dens for the Eastern nations. All the drunkene generals might put a non-no sticker on the gamebox as well.

Devoirs The Empress

[Kahn]

Indeed; to quote one of my generals speaking of the Moors: "sheep fondling donkey lovers..." That of course caused an immediate cleaning of my monitor screen

That's gross dude. I hope you mean you spit on it.

[miccofl]

That's gross dude. I hope you mean you spit on it.

Fortunately it was water and not soda, coffee or beer

As for the rating, the box that came with my game has a Teen rating and not Mature. Did it get changed or am I misreading something?

Personally I would not have an issue with a child of mine 13 or over playing this game but that would be the choice for my child and since different parents have different views on what they want their child to know it's best to defer to their judgment. If a parent wanted to know about this game, this thread would be a good place for them to start as I think just about everything has been covered.

[EMV]

As for the rating, the box that came with my game has a Teen rating and not Mature. Did it get changed or am I misreading something?

My release version of M2TW Collectors Edition sais M, note this is the Australian copy.

[Broken Lance]

lol sounds like you live in a bible belt family.

but has someone thought of the rating because of the thousands of men
brutally killing each other on a battlefield? :hmmm:

[T-wester]

sexual themes in Metw hmm. from a random general speech

they are men only feared by sheeps and for all the wrong reasons

[King Peter I]

So you guys say it is safe for a 13 year old boy (me) and I should buy it without thinking this is too much of a "Mature" game?

[supekele]

I find it admirable that you're researching into this first, I never did when I was 13.

I'll say the game is okay if you're not naive. It's up to you to decide whether or not you'll be disgusted by... certain themes. Of course, your parents might disagree.

[King Peter I]

Well my parents will disagree if they see those 2 "points" on the rating box. Also I was think of that once and thats why I bought Rome: Total war instead. So thats why I am asking here to to be sure its a safe game, and tell my parents it isn't so much of a "mature game."

[AytchMan]

I'll second supekele's comments. As one of the older poops here, I think the game is acceptable if you (and your parents) consider yourself a level-headed thirteen-year-old. Which has probably already been demonstrated by your questions about the game thus far. As mentioned above, I think there are two areas of potential objection. First, the battlefield animations show soldiers whacking away at each other and spreading a little cartoony blood around. Nothing worse than the typical action blockbuster movie. Second, the game addresses some adult themes in its descriptions of the various traits of your generals and diplomats. But they are simple, short descriptions; there are no animated depictions of any kind. And a few of the pre-battle speeches make brief (and I think harmless) adult references. There is no profanity.

I'd have no trouble letting my thirteen-year-old (if I had one) play the game although I might sit through the first hour with him just to reassure myself and answer a couple of questions for him.

[EMV]

I'm 14 and since I was 4-5 my parents have let me see R rated horror movies and play MA15+/R games, I don't see why parents have a problem with this. Yes your all going to say their reasons, but in my time playing MMO's I have been commented on as a mature person, even when I was back at the age 9-10, by people who are in their thirties to fourties. I don't see any problem introducing 13-14 year olds, if not younger to "mature" games. If anything this would help you mature faster, in my oponion. It is inevitable that your going to get exposed to Pornography and Blood/Gory Battle Scenes so I don't see why parents are over-protective and don't want to help you mature at a earlier age.

[AytchMan]

It is inevitable that your going to get exposed to Pornography and Blood/Gory Battle Scenes...

All too true.

...so I don't see why parents are over-protective and don't want to help you mature at a earlier age.

Here's where you go off the track. Nobody's arguing for parents to be over-protective. Just-right protective will do. The problem is that, with very few exceptions, 13- and 14-year-olds have neither the experience nor the judgment (no offense) to make the proper decisions concerning some hugely-important areas of their future lives. Your parents role, then, is to (a) decide when to expose you to these issues and (b) put them in proper context. It's like getting your first bike. Your parents decide (as they should) when you're old enough to handle it and they keep you from splitting your head open for the first ten minutes. [/Dr. Phil]