What do you presume to be your favorite Unit Type in Broken Crescent?

[Ahiga]

While this is a topic best suited to after the release, I think it wouldn't hurt to start one now even though opinions would be driven on speculation and assumptions.

Broken Crescent's setting has offered a chance at some more innovative units for the Medieval Era, hardly becoming a place ruled by simple spearmen and crossbowmen or horse archers. While pretty much all unit types have a basis in the Vanilla game and existed there already, through quality of the unit and especially their frequency I'd say we have 'invented' certain unit types to occur with enough frequency to be counted alongside spearmen, swordsmen, or archers as staple units.

So the experience has been shaken up to near the sort of diversity the ancient times had, and it's worth seeing what unit types we're all interested in!

How you could go about classifying them is hard to count, and if you don't know what unit type you like, just state a few units you feel are similar to one you greatly enjoy. Classifications can overlap, too.

A few examples to get your mind started include:

• Light/Medium/Heavy lancers
• "Semi Superheavy cavalry" (Those with felt or mail barding. Jerusalem Knights, Khorasani Cavalry, non-bodyguard narkharar)
• Cataphracts - Obvious, I hope.
• Light/Medium/heavy/Superheavy Javelin Cavalry
• Light/Medium/Heavy/Superheavy Horse Archers
• Elephants
• Camel Units
• Light/Medium/Heavy spearmen.
• Pikemen
• Hybrid Archers - Those with some armor, a shield, sidearm and abow.
• Hybrid Javelineers (Or Daylami-style units)
• Light/Medium/Heavy Melee Infantry (1 handed Axe, Mace, or Sword)
• 2 Handed Infantrymen
• "Unbreakables" - Kshatriya Infantry/Cavalry, Jihad Ghulams, Ghazi, Templars.

For me, my favorite are two which experienced a renaissance in Broken Crescent, being rare or largely absent in Vanilla MTWII. Both also kind of play off the same theme, that of a Hybrid, one being more towards the ranged portion, the other the melee.

• Hybrid Archers
  • Are those with shield, bow, and a sidearm. Typically they are at least medium-armored, the vanilla origin being the Ottoman Infantry.
  • Examples include: Ghaznavid Regular Bowmen and Ghulam Infantry, Sindhi Jagir Archers, and Ayyubid Mamluk Archers.
  • They are kind of the ranged-oriented Hybrids, being more "An archer with armor, a shield and a weapon" rather than "Infantrymen with bows".
  • I haven't used them quite as much in BC, but their role is also invaluable. When you have a unit which can fire on enemy's from the wall, and then promptly switch to a hand-held weapon and shield, you're in for a good fight. Not to mention they can easily fire on an enemy behind the line, then promptly reinforce that line or swing around to hit their flanks

• Hybrid Javelineers [or Daylami-Style Infantry]
  
  • Are those with shield, sidearm, and javelins (AP or not). They can be any range of armor, but have to not skirmish. Closest thing vanilla had to them was Afghan Javelinmen or Almughavars
  • Examples include: Daylami, Soomro Warriors, Vishap Infantry, Rum turk Frontiersmen, Ghorid Nobles
  • They are kind of the melee-oriented hybrids, being more "Infantrymen with Javelins" than "Skirmishers with armor, a shield, and a weapon".
  • I've come to love this type of unit. A free one-two punch of ranged attack before the charge? It makes me question why use infantry who can't! While few actually pack that pilum-esque punch (Ghorid Nobles, Heavy daylami, and Soomro warriors are those to have it, I think), the free extra punch is easily appreciated.

Appearance wise, I just love light/medium spear or lance and sidearm armed cavalrymen.

[Fenix_120]

EDIT: I did not see the Unbreakable category, thats the one I want!


And I also want to see the new pikemen.

[The King Of Peasants]

I'm looking forward to the light Cavalry which there seem to be alot more of in bc. And to the much greater use of javlins especially the ERE's anti cav javlins

[nnnm]

Horse Archer

[Taneda Santôka]

Elephants up your snout!

[teh.frickin.pope]

Hybrid archers are definitely up there for me, been in love with them ever since Rome and its chosen archer warbands and pharoahs archers.
Medium/heavy horsarchers are also pretty sweet, something that very few armies had in 'nilla. A powerful and mobile missile attack combined with combat sustainability is very awesome.
The light/medium lancers are looking great to me, I love units that I can use to run around the map, pouncing on enemies and being gone before they can react, like the long shield cavalry for Carthage(best cav in Rome IMO).
The Heavy melee infantry also have me really excited, as one of the things that disappointed me about 'nilla was that everyone had the same infantry, in BC they all look so unique and badass.

[mastaace]

hybrid javeleeners and heavy infantry..

by the way who are those ghorid nobles? i think i don't know them yet

[Miraj]

by the way who are those ghorid nobles? i think i don't know them yet

These guys:



They come in mounted and dismounted form.

[mastaace]

These guys:



They come in mounted and dismounted form.

thank you i did not know that they do exist dismounted as well, now that's fine!

[Ahiga]

http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?i...obles02kf7.jpg These guys on foot, wielding axe and javelin.

Ah, I was a slowpoke.

The King Of Peasants: I found that a nice quality in BC. Whereas in Vanilla the light cavalry was kinda meh, and as soon as you could get rid of it you did, it feels like the light cavalry here are really worthwhile. It's a bit less evident for those who get their heavier guys faster, but for Oman or Sindh, when your first 'heavy' cavalry comes at tier 4, you're going to rely on a lot on your earlier cavalry.

[Miraj]

Ah, I was a slowpoke.

Yes you were melons, yes you were.

[Kiki52]

I am most excited about the Heavy Infantry. I do feel that horse archer spamming is annoying, now Muslim factions aren't just about masses of horse archers and nothing else anymore. Now they have well balanced stuff.

I also am looking forward to the Hybrid Javelins so now I can pepper guys with spears and not have to fear them being slaughtered the moment they touch. I could use them as infantry or javelinmen!

But of course, I also like Elephants

[Gallowglass]

Daylami definitley are top of my list..I love the look of the units and as Ahiga sez the allure of a one-two jav/melee punch is irresistable..but also very much looking foward to the Ghulam units, which means Kwarzem or Ghazni will probably be my first faction to play...along with my other first choice of Makuria...or Oman..Wait mabey the Ayyubids, or Ghorids..or Abbassids and Jerusalem. and Byzantium, Rajaputs, Seljuks, Turks, Sindh, Georgia, Kypchaks, Armenia. definitley one of those..not too interested in the other factions

Oh and dont forget the Eskimos! Polar bear lancers FTW

[Rex Armeniae]

Iam very interested in my Aspets, and how I will make them work as Javeliners and a good shock troop as well.

Unbreakables and Hybrid javeliners, perhaps.

[_TheChevalier_]

I think I'll be interested in heavy Horse Archers, Hybrid Javelineers and Hybrid Archers. Then I'd look for Heavy melee infantry.

[Miraj]

If there was one unit I had to rely on then I'd pick med/heavy horse archers. I remember my Sipahi armies of death as the Turks back in vanilla could range far and deep into enemy territory taking very few casualties in every battle.

The great aspect of them is that you can use them just like light HAs: surround and kill as many enemy. But if or when you ever needed to you still have powerful unit for melee. Mobility + Range + Strength. Awsome combo.

[Randarkmaan]

I think I have to concur on the heavy horse-archers.
Generally I am very fond of armies consisting of horse-archers, both light and heavy, and also many archers guarded by infantry. Against some types of armies, particularly if they are controlled by the computer, they will simply rip them to shreds.

[Rex Armeniae]

If there was one unit I had to rely on then I'd pick med/heavy horse archers. I remember my Sipahi armies of death as the Turks back in vanilla could range far and deep into enemy territory taking very few casualties in every battle.

The great aspect of them is that you can use them just like light HAs: surround and kill as many enemy. But if or when you ever needed to you still have powerful unit for melee. Mobility + Range + Strength. Awsome combo.

Yeah, it makes me remember the armenian cataphract horse archers in RTW... they were awesome!

[sud commander]

this is my favourite unit in Broken Crescent

[IrAr]

For versatility, I'll probably go with the Aspetner.
Naa'-khaa-raar (added stress)