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    Sparta total war [300 style-ish]

    for rtw 1,5, unpacked, up and running on my machine but i need to do a few things to finish 1.0

    features

    re-work of greek cities into sparta with King Louise Assurbanipal’s 300 spartan skins [thanks and great work there - i hope you don’t mind me using them], i have increased the contrast on the skins to make them look a little darker and intense, there are some alex and some of my own skins, mainly a re-colour to the 300 look.

    basis; this is not historically accurate but would have been possible i think, i just wanted a strong spartan ‘empire’ Vs rome etc for tactical reasons, and i wanted lots of different spartan units. the colour scheme is dark red, black and gold, the units are based on a macedon-sparta alliance, so you get spartan companions and hypaspists.

    new units: [and icons]

    new added;

    Spartiates
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...Spartiates.jpg

    ---------------------------------

    spartan hypaspists
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...hypaspists.jpg

    female armoured archers.
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...tw/archers.jpg

    Spartan Hoplite [300 KLA]
    in image below...

    kings guard [King Leonidas [ KLA]]
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...spartan300.jpg

    spartan companions
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...companions.jpg

    spartan sacred band [needs work]
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...SACREDBAND.jpg

    with new officers, standards. [work nearly done]
    also new spartan flags icons etc.

    the units have been balanced to match rome, i have not made the spartans invincible or anything but the kings guard spartans will be the most powerful unit in the game and the general unit. a complete spartan army - i.e. all the new units - will be very expensive comparatively.

    all banners for rome are changed with all three roman factions being red with spor banners.

    the celts and some germans will reflect their traditional fighting style; strong charge, retreat then charge again.

    sparta [still called greak cities i am afraid] will have a few more regions.

    new loading screens

    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1..._screen_17.jpg
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1..._screen_14.jpg
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1..._screen_13.jpg
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1..._screen_12.jpg
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1..._screen_11.jpg
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1..._screen_10.jpg
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1..._screen_08.jpg
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...g_screen_5.jpg
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...g_screen_9.jpg



    any help gladly accepted!
    Last edited by Amorphos; November 12, 2007 at 03:58 PM.
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    I would play it. Would it be contained in its own modfolder?
    "So there I am, in Sri Lanka, formerly Ceylon, at about 3 o'clock in the morning, looking for one thousand brown M&Ms to fill a brandy glass, or Ozzy wouldn't go on stage that night. So, Jeff Beck pops his head 'round the door, and mentions there's a little sweets shop on the edge of town. So - we go. And - it's closed. So there's me, and Keith Moon, and David Crosby, breaking into that little sweets shop, eh. Well, instead of a guard dog, they've got this bloody great big Bengal tiger. I managed to take out the tiger with a can of mace, but the shopowner and his son... that's a different story altogether. I had to beat them to death with their own shoes. Nasty business, really. But, sure enough, I got the M&Ms, and Ozzy went on stage and did a great show."

    -Del Preston

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    female archers.. with corinthian helmets!

    that might just be the oddest thing i've seen when it comes to RTW

    looks awesome though!

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    Aggh, my history buff eyes!

    Very nice though, if I didn't have RS I'd download this.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





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    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
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    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
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    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

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    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

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    Then I'm God.
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    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

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    Default Re: Sparta total war [300 style-ish]

    I would play it. Would it be contained in its own modfolder?
    it will be zipped so that you simply overwrite the data folder and everything is put in place. i have done one zip, but i am not happy with it - should be available within a week or so.

    beleive me it will be quite different and exiting - when you see the celtic charge you'll know what i mean.

    female archers.. with corinthian helmets!
    its the originals from game i.e. amazon archers from the chariots - i just painted them dark red.

    Aggh, my history buff eyes!
    ha, yes indeed, however rtw cannot be historically accurate, history is not interactive y’know.

    i just thought sparta had a lot more potential [if only they hadent lost that darn battle], after defeating athens then could have built an empire from the athenian league perhaps?

    the main point is that it is a what if scenario! a slight change in policy and you could get alexandrian units for flexibility, but of course you would keep the spartan phalanx wouldn’t you!

    i am going for different gameplay and two equally strong factions, although the celts will charge and re-charge you as they would historically, the germans will have a more powerful wall of spears [as they interacted much with greece] and will be more concise. the scythians will have the powerful near attack of the mongol horse archer which makes the composite bows armour pearcing [but they have to get close to be effective, so can be got at with cavalry].


    i will upload sparta 1.0, then do a complete gaul and german reskin or recolour and add a few units. the southern germanic celts apparenty invented chain mail so this will be represented, equally the celts invented the plate armour of the late roman style, but it was tempered iron and not steal [from what i gather], so the celts will have a small but strong and highly armoured unit [champions].

    any ideas gladly appreciated.
    Formerly quetzalcoatl. Proud leader of STW3 and member of the RTR, FATW and QNS teams.

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    Dude, that looks nice. If you are willing to share, I'm willing to play. Is the game's story going to start off at 480 BC?

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    at the moment it starts in the normal time frame. anything you or others want, just say and i’ll try to implement it. this game is more for tactics and game-play than historical accuracy, which is why the greeks will have a colony [1 small town] in gaul. apparently the greeks did have one somewhere there but i don’t know at what time - i just want to take on the now stronger germans and gauls, then julii faction lol.

    to begin with the map will be more or less the same as vanilla, with sparta holding athens being the only extra.


    any ideas for more spartan units? does it need any?
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    It needs the Spartiates, they were and elite group of spartans. They would be better than the spartan hoplites but not as good as the kings gaurd.
    "So there I am, in Sri Lanka, formerly Ceylon, at about 3 o'clock in the morning, looking for one thousand brown M&Ms to fill a brandy glass, or Ozzy wouldn't go on stage that night. So, Jeff Beck pops his head 'round the door, and mentions there's a little sweets shop on the edge of town. So - we go. And - it's closed. So there's me, and Keith Moon, and David Crosby, breaking into that little sweets shop, eh. Well, instead of a guard dog, they've got this bloody great big Bengal tiger. I managed to take out the tiger with a can of mace, but the shopowner and his son... that's a different story altogether. I had to beat them to death with their own shoes. Nasty business, really. But, sure enough, I got the M&Ms, and Ozzy went on stage and did a great show."

    -Del Preston

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    Formerly quetzalcoatl. Proud leader of STW3 and member of the RTR, FATW and QNS teams.

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    update, just done a new skin for the > first legionary cohort < to make them different to the basic cohort - see attached file to add it to your mod...
    [thanks to wbb for the basic skin that i redone]
    ------------------------------------

    i just realised that the skins may need to be copied over to the main data directory in rome

    i.e.

    from here:
    C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\SPARTA\Data\models_unit\TEXTURES

    to here: [an unpacked rtw with the dat folder cxopied over to the main directory]

    C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\Data\models_unit\TEXTURES

    but none of you seams to having any problems i am glad to here.
    Formerly quetzalcoatl. Proud leader of STW3 and member of the RTR, FATW and QNS teams.

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    http://z7.invisionfree.com/MPC_TW/in...p?showtopic=38

    a few skins i put together if you feel you can use them feel free,i was going to make a greek mod but meh too mcuh trouble

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    thanks pwntality i am still reskinning ready for V01, so i am sure they will come in handy!

    edit; nice skins there! will definately use them thanks!

    so surprising that no one has done a sparta mod already! i guess its because the historical accuracy goes out the window .

    ha, it is too much agro yes, you wouldn’t think this has taken me over 40 hours eh. i expect my next one will be much quicker, i am looking into using some tricks i have discovered along the way.
    Last edited by Amorphos; November 20, 2007 at 03:09 PM.
    Formerly quetzalcoatl. Proud leader of STW3 and member of the RTR, FATW and QNS teams.

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    i had plently of skins made out only thing that really caused me to backtrack is modeling and campaign mapping two of which i care not to try by myself

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    this is me first day and im not very good at modding and stuff but i did as you instructed on the readme file and when i put the spratan total war icon on the desk top it dosent do anything it just show a blank icon with little windows in it. I click on it and it said file cannot be located and wants to browse through and find the thing pls help?

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    This thread is ancient history, friend. The most recent version of this mod, Sparta: Total War III, can be found here in this subforum.

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    MMMM BOOBUYS
    Sry?
    ummm
    awsome lookin mod m8.

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    pwntality, hi

    modeling and campaign mapping two of which i care not to try by myself
    indeed - i am with you there . i would love to find a way to achieve the rugby scrum effect that phalanxes would have fought like - you know where the two armies clash against each other pushing forwards with all their might.
    the problem is with the long spears [can be changed to short pike] and underarm thrusting. xgm changes this, - might be worth looking into.

    i am just reskinning the barbarian factions, i'll upload the ones i will do.

    colour schemes:

    germans; black with lots of fur.

    gauls; very dark green with black and dark brown elements and a little tartan.

    carthage; white and black with gold crescents and touches. note i have problems skinning these as i do with certain kinds of skins [see the sacred band image in first post].

    thanks

    quetz
    Formerly quetzalcoatl. Proud leader of STW3 and member of the RTR, FATW and QNS teams.

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    Downloading it looks awsome


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    you'll have some real cool celtoi to fight soon, i have done 15 new skins.

    for the first time i may even start a game as gauls!

    oh and some new romans ~ dont forget to add the new first cohort skin in one of the above posts.
    Formerly quetzalcoatl. Proud leader of STW3 and member of the RTR, FATW and QNS teams.

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    I wont and you should start a major mod, would be awsome.


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