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    Default [Decision] New curator application thread

    Proposer: [user]SirPaladin[/user]
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    New curator application threadThe Curia decides that Elrond was unconstitutionally appointed Curator, therefore a new curator application thread must be opened an he removed from the office.


    In order not to have a dual purpose to the VonC thread I opened this.
    That thread is discussing whether Elrond has neglected his job. That thread will be discussing whether he should have not been a curator in the first place.
    Last edited by iudas; November 04, 2007 at 11:45 AM.

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    Default Re: [Decision] New curator application thread

    This has my cautious support.

    Edit: Though I don't know how this is going to be enforced. Decisions are non binding.
    Last edited by Scar Face; November 04, 2007 at 11:41 AM.

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    Default Re: [Decision] New curator application thread

    This is a vonc right?
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    Default Re: [Decision] New curator application thread

    No. That's why it's a separate thread...

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    Default Re: [Decision] New curator application thread

    Basically, its a Decision by the Curia that Elrond was not Constitutionally appointed, and thus not Curator in the first place. VONC not needed, though I am apprehensive about this, because it has the possibility to be ignored, which a VONC does not.

    Edit: On second thought, I'm going to withdraw my support. I don't think he is the Curator rightfully, but a Vote of no Confidence is simply more reliable, and this will only serve to crowd the Curia vote.

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    Default Re: [Decision] New curator application thread

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPaladin View Post
    No. That's why it's a separate thread...
    You are asking the curator to be removed, while there is already another thread that it is asking the same. In the vonc thread it is mentioned that Elrond was unconstitutionally appointed Curator.
    Ερωτηθεὶς τι ποτ' αυτώ περιγέγονεν εκ φιλοσοφίας, έφη, «Το ανεπιτάκτως ποιείν ά τινες διά τον από των νόμων φόβον ποιούσιν.


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    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    The universe is change; our life is what our thoughts make it.


    The soul becomes dyed with the color of its thoughts.


    If you desire to be good, begin by believing that you are wicked.


    We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.


    οὕτως ἀταλαίπωρος τοῖς πολλοῖς ἡ ζήτησις τῆς ἀληθείας, καὶ ἐπὶ τὰ ἑτοῖμα μᾶλλον τρέπονται.


    Questions are not necessarily there to be answered, but possibly there to inspire thinking.


    Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, - quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes.


    If mind is common to us, then also the reason, whereby we are reasoning beings, is common. If this be so, then also the reason which enjoins what is to be done or left undone is common. If this be so, law also is common; if this be so, we are citizens; if this be so, we are partakers in one constitution; if this be so, the Universe is a kind of commonwealth.


    Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.


    There is no chaos in the world, only complexity.
    Knowledge of the complex is wisdom.
    From wisdom of the world comes wisdom of the self.
    Mastery of the self is mastery of the world. Loss of the self is the source of suffering.
    Suffering is a choice, and we can refuse it.
    It is in our power to create the world, or destroy it.


    Homo homini lupus est. Homo sacra res homini.


    When deeds speak, words are nothing.


    Human history is a litany of blood, shed over different ideals of rulership and afterlife


    Sol lucet omnibus.


    You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.


    Neither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.


    The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.


    Ο Νούς νοεί τον εαυτόν του ως κράτιστος και η νόησή του είναι της νοήσεως νόησις.


    'Nothing is true, everything is permitted.' is merely an observation of the nature of reality. To say that nothing is true, is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say that everything is permitted, is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.

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    Default Re: [Decision] New curator application thread

    But the VonC is on grounds of neglecting duty. That is the choice of the OP.

    I leave the Speaker(?) to decide whether this should stay or not, though...
    Last edited by iudas; November 04, 2007 at 11:49 AM.

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    Default Re: [Decision] New curator application thread

    Erm, what? This looks suspiciously like a case of double jeopardy to me. The Curia has a means of removing Curial officers: the VonC. It can't retroactively disqualify candidates. If you really want Elrond dismissed from his position, focus on the VonC. This action here is without precedent and, I dare say, quite likely to be vetoed.
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    Default Re: [Decision] New curator application thread

    If it is invalid then close this. But I believe that more members' opinions identify with this than the VonC.

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    Default Re: [Decision] New curator application thread

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPaladin View Post
    If it is invalid then close this.
    Fine. Closed - imb39

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