carthage too easy?

[kkbob33]

im playing as the romans and i took sicily and carthage with basically no aggression from carthage. in the east im fighting mecadon and those battles are alot better . macedon sends stack after stack at me and carthage just lets me conquer. wish carthage was a little harder

saying that, i believe this is one of the best mods i have played for rtw(along with spqr, wich i havent played in ages) and is a VERY enjoyable experience. its actually very close to history

[S.P.Q.R. Praetorian]

As you stated SPQR mod. I think I like SPQR mod a little more than RS. Rs has tons more legions but SPQR has an EXTREMELY TOUGH AI. You start in Rome with thousands of enemys at your gates. I like a good challenge. But RS 2 I hope has a tougher AI. dvk said it starts in 215 BC. I hope he make Hannibal in italy because that was the time on the 3 punic wars.

[Tankbuster]

Also RS has waaaaay tougher battles than SPQR

And isn't Angel revamping the whole AI?? Revamping to kick our *** I mean.
There's a thread about it

[S.P.Q.R. Praetorian]

[quote=Tankbuster;2352606]Also RS has waaaaay tougher battles than SPQR

No way. When you start the SPQR mod on easy with the roman faction you WILL be destroyed within a few turns unless you move very fast training the proper units. No offence to dvk I think his mod is great but I hope the AI in RS 2 is tougher. Esepcialy the free people. nac uoy eard htsi. fi os hten orrys baotu hte dab neligsh.

[rory o'kane]

err, 217 BC
but yeah. Hannibal will be in Italy at the start of the campaign in RS2, so you'll REALLY have your work cut out for you!

[S.P.Q.R. Praetorian]

err, 217 BC
but yeah. Hannibal will be in Italy at the start of the campaign in RS2, so you'll REALLY have your work cut out for you!

Hey, rory must be the wise cracker of the RS team, huh?
Anyways RS 2 does sound a lot better than 1.0c.

[rory o'kane]

Hey, rory must be the wise cracker of the RS team, huh?
Anyways RS 2 does sound a lot better than 1.0c.

i'm not sure quite what you mean by that. i just correct everyone and everything when i can. it's a personality quirk.

[frankus]

@DVK: which faction wins in AI campaigns? just curious

[S.P.Q.R. Praetorian]

i'm not sure quite what you mean by that. i just correct everyone and everything when i can. it's a personality quirk.

I mean you must be the joker of the group.

[rory o'kane]

I mean you must be the joker of the group.

not really! it's usually Drtad or Cherry or one of the others that make the jokes!

[rory o'kane]

well, someone will be. Angel is no longer part of the RS Team. Ask DVK about it. i wasn't online when IT happened.

[dvk901]

Well, there are a couple things to remember about almost any mod for RTW.

First, never blitz. If you do, you don't give the AI a chance to build up and BE a challenge. Wait, 20-30 years...build up your own territories, defend yourself, kick Pyrrhus out of Italy.

Second, I determined quite a long time ago that Carthage's problem was Syracuse....they always get into a long protracted war in Sicily right off the bat, and it kinda leaves them vulnerable latter on. I have corrected this in the Upgrade I'm working on.

Third, play RS with the BI.exe......Carthage will be much nastier because of the better naval invasions. Also, I worked particularly hard on getting their economy straigthened out.

Fourth, be afraid. The Barbarians and Carthaginians in particular in the Upgrade are going to MUCH harder. The Free People have more regions north of Italy, more money, more hate for Romans. (yeah, I added the 'hate attribute' in...just kidding)

Anyway, I'm going to upload it to my team sometime today, so expect to see it released soon.

[♔Jean-Luc Picard♔]

dvk, it took me three years tops to push pyrrus out of italy. i pretty much killed his army at Tarentum and he didnt even get many kills except with those blasted elephants. i think they ran over my hastati... anyhow, harder pryyus would be fun as well. he is a little too easy to me.

Skan

[Rex Illyrici]

Third, play RS with the BI.exe......Carthage will be much nastier because of the better naval invasions. Also, I worked particularly hard on getting their economy straigthened out.

Where can you get the BI.exe file?
does it only come with Barbarian Invasion?

[Ephialtes The Dog]

Yes, you have to buy BI to get the BI.exe

[HunterKYA]

From my current campaign with the Romans, I've noticed throughout the campaign that Carthage seems to be almost a borderline pushover, because if they really let the Syracusans get going, they can turn into a downright bully and push Carthage around because of their 14 full stack armies altogether, and the 5 1/2 stacks they have near Carthage itself.

The only encounters I've had against the Carthaginians so far has just been recently, and have experienced determined, albeit weak, resistance when I seized from them Corsica, their holdings in Spain, and the Baeleric Islands.

[kkbob33]

thanks for the advice and looking forward to a new release.

anyway, pyrus was easily expelled from italy. i usually wait till im attacked by a civilization before i attack them. the only exception to this in this campaign was sarycuse. they were too easy and i couldnt resist crushing them in 3 turns. i then sat in sicily and waited for a while before attacking carthage. i had a legion in a fort for at least 10 years before attacking. macedon on the other hand did a full out attack after i wiped out the pyric peeple (lol). all the while the gauls just keep sending stacks over the alps!!! great fun!

i never did see any elephants while fighting them.....i think i atou resolved that battle because there was 2 units oir something.

thanks again

[pseudocaesar]

Just out of interest, how old are you S.P.Q.R. Praetorian?

[S.P.Q.R. Praetorian]

Just out of interest, how old are you S.P.Q.R. Praetorian?

Why, is it my bad spelling? nac uoy daer siht. Read it backwards now read this. yhw od uoy tnaw ot wonk ym ega.

[dvk901]

Why, is it my bad spelling? nac uoy daer siht. Read it backwards now read this. yhw od uoy tnaw ot wonk ym ega.

If you have something to say, say it. We all appreciate a good sense of humor, but this is borderline 'infantile'. Somebody asked you how old you were, either answer the question or ignore it. This forum isn't the place to start throwing around gibberish because you feel challenged by a question.

Now, you are claiming in this thread (and another) that population should be much higher and that SPQR is way harder. I think you're missing the point that what we appreciate is 'constructive criticism' of RS regarding it's built in shortfalls, rather than 'Spqr is way harder and much tougher'.

Quite frankly, I know everything there is to know about SPQR...it's my favorite mod aside from this one. I have played the crap out of it, and LT has been a helpful mentor in more ways than one. But this is not SPQR, and it is NOT intended to be SPQR. In fact I have gone far out of my way to do things in this mod that are 'revolutionary', using every trick I know of to make this mod challenging and fun.

SPQR, for one thing, is not meant to be historical..in any way shape or form, and LT has made a point of saying so numerous times. His focus is on challenging gameplay. Thus, his mod is how RTW could've played out of the box if CA had hired him instead of whomever they DID hire.

On the otherhand, Lusted created TE as his own expression of an RTW that LOOKED like it should've when it was made. Repman and Darth focused on gameplay and AI mechanics. RTR and EB focus on the Historical aspects of the time. So where does Roma Surrectum fit into this? My intention is that it be a kind of a 'hybrid' of them all. Challenging, beautiful, innovative, hard to win, and historical up to the point where it is still fun to play.

I'll tell you a few things about RS you probably don't know. For example, this mod is configured so that you will be rich in your homelands, and progressively poorer as you expand. This mod has an AOR that doesn't just limit where the Legions can be built...it limits where just about everything can be built....and it controls the economy.

SPQR is a Roman mod. RS depicts the Romans like no other mod ever has...and yet it isn't really a 'Roman mod'. Why? Well, for one thing, Rome has never won an AI campaign in this mod in all my hundreds of tests. Never.
So if you play as the Romans, you'll win by your wits, not because I made it easy for you. In SPQR, a Roman Hastati has better stats than a Greek Royal Pikeman or a Seleucid Royal pikeman. In RS, a Roman Hastati would have a hard time with a City Hoplite. So winning with the Romans requires a smart player, not a statistical advantage.

In SPQR, I know from playing it, and I know from the Forum that at some point you reach a 'fallover'...where you have so much money, and so many armies that nothing can stand up to you anymore. In RS, I have in place a system that will penalize you economically the further you expand...so at some point you will take regions and they will COST you money instead of making it for you. Expanding will get more and more expensive, and troop maintenance will eat up every cent. And you still MUST build the 'happy' buildings' for your people...otherwise they will revolt. Sure, you can use cheats and just change things.........like giving Legio Triana Fortis 99 moral, 99 attack on it's pilum, and 99,99 attack on it's sword. But I configured this mod to be a challenge.