Party Powers

[sanada]

THE PROTECTION OF SMALL PARTIES ACT

By Consul Lucius Aurelius Lepidus
Co-sponsored by Gnaeus Aurelies Libo

SECTION I: CHECKS AND BALANCES

1A: Minority leader:

Every term the clear minority party shall elect a minority leader. This leader will act as a Tribune of the Plebs would, except he would only be allowed 3 vetoes during his term. His vetoes should be used on bills that will provide a clear disadvantage to the minority party.

Should there be two or more disadvantaged parties, the members of said parties should work together to choose their leader.

Should, during the term of the minority leader, the disadvantaged party see an influx of new, permanent members, the minority leader will transfer his role to the new minority party.

The Minority Leader may not hold any other office.

1B Backroom deals:

There shall be no more backroom deals for votes during elections. All inter party deals for votes should be broadcast to the senate.

These deals are certainly not illegal, but the senate should be made aware of such dealings.

1C Violation concequences

Should any party not follow the previous clause, an inquiry will be opened through the Censor's office and the Senate Administrators (Winter and Sanada)
These three will decide if there is sufficient evidence for an in-senate inquiry, at which point the chief offenders (ie party leaders, or dealmakers) will be found guilty or innocent and be either barred from elections, voting, or a combination of the two.

SECTION II: PARTY LAW

2A Party support
Parties openly in support of one another must report so to the senate. Further, if said parties are to support each other on a majority of votes for a period greater than one term, they must begin to merge into one party.


2B Violation Consequences

Should any party not follow the previous clause, an inquiry will be opened through the Censor's office and the Senate Administrators (Winter and Sanada)
If they decide it is necessary, There will be a formal inquiry, upon which the decision will be made to reprimand, bar from the next elections, or disband the offending party.

Discuss.

[We shall fwee...Wode]

I will just post my views from the cvria

I fail to see the need of an act. I think that there is nothing wrong with an alliance between parties, secret or open. Parties should ally with who they want for any agenda. This alliance gives both the populares and Optimates a chance of implementing and working together. If the table were turned you would defend yourself like I am.



If you make this passed, what about the middle sized party? They will have the least power. The party with the second most votes has less power than the least votes. This is a ridiculous idea. Under these conditions the smaller moderate party would have a position while my party would have to win votes to get ANY power.

[sanada]

Instead of an Act such as this, a Party should have a limit on members, say 4.

Those who are not in the party are independent senators - they can vote how they like, and may put themselves forward for election.

I also propose we make Party Alliance illegal - so that elections are more open, and more hotly contested.

[We shall fwee...Wode]

But the what are the benefits of no party membership? people won't be happy to be told they can't be in a party. I think that nothing needs changing.

[sanada]

A Party List,

example: 8 senators on the Populares list

The first 4 senators will be in the Party for one term, the remaining 4 senators will be rotated, so that they are in the Party for the second term.

Or!

Each member in a party has a party membership which lasts for 3 terms, when this expires they will leave the party,and will not be eligible to join for 1 term, thus opening up a position to be filled by someone who wishes to join said party.

[We shall fwee...Wode]

I think a solution is being searched for when the system is fine.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[♔Jean-Luc Picard♔]

thats why we need an economica bill at all, eh?

Aqulinus

[We shall fwee...Wode]

Yes but that is to keep in order reduce voting on issues of taxation and the like. This is a policy which is discrimination against the populares because we are neither the largest nor smallest party.

[♔Jean-Luc Picard♔]

why not throw an amendment out to make the middle man more equal then? you don't need to trash an entire piece of legislation because the current form is not to your liking.

Aquilinus

[We shall fwee...Wode]

I have stated above that nothing is wrong with the current system. What we have done is not immoral or illegal. IT IS POLITICS!

[Winter]

It is not how the parties were supposed to work. You are cutting off an entire party from the elections, and that is not the spirit of this aar. Everyone is supposed to get a turn.

[♔Jean-Luc Picard♔]

politics, by definition, is a system with a lack of morals. just look at the US congress.

Aquilinus

[Winter]

This isn't politics its an internet rping game. If your going to play so completely unfairly maybe you should go run for congress.

[We shall fwee...Wode]

The whole point of roleplaying is allowing to play our roles. Telling us we can't form alliances in secret is stoping us roleplaying as people willing to go to any length for their cause. Something you should know Lepidus!

[Winter]

You are forming a massive secret alliance between two huge groups with one of the goals being the stopping of a third group from gaining any power. This does not seem right to me!

(ooc) Me thinks its time for a civil war.

[sanada]

(ooc) the civil war comes in a couple more terms winter! or does it?

[We shall fwee...Wode]

I did say I left for the night, but i will return to address this.

You are forming a massive secret alliance between two huge groups with one of the goals being the stopping of a third group from gaining any power. This does not seem right to me!

(ooc) Me thinks its time for a civil war.

What is any coalition government? Most democracies (notable exceptions the UK and US) have coalition governments because no majority can ever be founded. This is a similar situation here. Coalitions are fundamental in nearly all democracies and republics. Why not this one?

[Marie Louise von Preussen]

I'm against 1A, for reasons I already stated to the Senators here. Minority leaders are certainly one step further into manipulation of votes in favor of minorities, precisely the opposite of what the Res Publica is about. First, how can we safely define something "hurts" minorities?

I am in favor of a regulation clause that protects minorities without giving them the right to a minority leader. It's an uncessary office, and I won't support this bill if 1A remains.

[sanada]

2A Party support
Parties openly in support of one another must report so to the senate. Further, if said parties are to support each other on a majority of votes for a period greater than one term, they must begin to merge into one party

I will not support the merge of two supporting parties into one party, I believe that will be ridiculous as the Party will then become one large party instead of two small ones - meaning said party can dominate the senate without having to fear punishment...

[♔Jean-Luc Picard♔]

coalitions tend to fall apart quickly. look at the triumverates.

Aquilinus