Kingdoms is way too easy

[Accius]

Even on VH/VH, I still don't find much of a challenge. I always play underdog factions, and even then after about 40 turns the game is well on its way to being over.

And the Britannia campaign is a joke.

I was hoping CA would make it tougher than MTWII. Oh well, now I'm just looking forwards to new mods.

[Carnifex]

In the Britannia campaign, which faction, did you play as?

[Oberhut]

going by his Avatar I could make an educated guess - it'd be harde with you though

[Samuel Adams]

I played Brittania as Ireland, but it wasn't THAT easy; I mean, it took me a few turns to get a force capable of dealing just with the field armies of England, then to expell them took another 20 or so turns, maybe more. It wasn't reclaiming Ireland that was hard though but dealing with trade and such. With only like 5 factions it's pretty sucky, because you can't maintain alliances all around and after a while of being at peace one faction has to go mess up an arranged peace. I mean, then my longtime ally Scotland pulls a RTW and randomly blockades my port with a undermanned ship of 12 men on a cog; I wiped them out, then got another treaty signed. Wales and the Baron's Alliance were the only two firm allies I had till the BA got killed off by Scotland and the English and Scots started duking it out... Of course, Norway was left unhindered and plowed over Scotland's northern territories. It was such a shambles... I considered myself winning that one since I reconquered the Irish Isles and some other Islands around it. But the America's campaign was great, I'm still playing that one, adn the Crusades are fun too but again, not enough factions. I'm gonna give the Teutons a try once my AAR is done.

[Erax]

This is madness! It aint that easy!
:sparta:

[Hunter Makoy]

well Accius i guess ur just the best damn kingdom's player ever. y dont u send ur resume over to CA so u can test their games for them, and maybe they can get them up to YOUR standards.

[Heskey]

well Accius i guess ur just the best damn kingdom's player ever. y dont u send ur resume over to CA so u can test their games for them, and maybe they can get them up to YOUR standards.

Haha, love it! xD

[Hunter Makoy]

i'm just sick of people who haven't really been on this site for a while, and thus haven't built up any credibility, starting threads, that bash the game, AND talk about how great they r. there r people on this forum who if they said that i would listen to them, cant say the same for this guy tho.

I can understand his point if he was playing england, yeah, if ur any good u will eventually win, it just takes time. but if ur playing someone like Norway then it takes a very long time before u can say 'i will win this game'. Norway is definately the hardest in britannia. my fav. is prolly the welsh. they r weak to begin, but have a strong and interesting millitary. plus their consolidated. which even tho its only 3 provinces, their position is actually pretty strong if u wanna turtle for a while and build up ur treasury.

[Heskey]

Have to say I'm playing as England and finding it really difficult; I demolished my Irish bases and retreated my forces to watch over my northern boarder - I have 2 full stacks in forts in Wales to spread culture but that's not happening, and I can't attack them because they must have 8 full stacks roaming their lands, with threat of spawning more if I even lay a finger on the bloody cities.

What's more, I'm getting like 2000k a turn (all settlements on HAPPY to avoid baron's alliance, even if it means low tax in some) which isn't enough to produce Unit-Making Buildings, and isn't enough to make any credable units to replace the ones I loose.

Help?

[Lost Crusader]

Help?

First, focus on your economy, because at the beginning, England is in pretty bad shape. Build only the lowest level at the moment - ports, grain exchange, land clearance and, most importantly, roads. Recruit some merchants.

Gather all of your troops scattered around English forts and cities (leave only small garrisons to keep the civil order).
You don't have to keep strong army on the Scottish border, because they will probably not attack you while they are busy with the Norwegians (unless you play at VH).
With those forces you should be able to defeat the Welsh.

[Hunter Makoy]

Have to say I'm playing as England and finding it really difficult; I demolished my Irish bases and retreated my forces to watch over my northern boarder - I have 2 full stacks in forts in Wales to spread culture but that's not happening, and I can't attack them because they must have 8 full stacks roaming their lands, with threat of spawning more if I even lay a finger on the bloody cities.

What's more, I'm getting like 2000k a turn (all settlements on HAPPY to avoid baron's alliance, even if it means low tax in some) which isn't enough to produce Unit-Making Buildings, and isn't enough to make any credable units to replace the ones I loose.

Help?

dont get me wrong, i wasn't implying that england is easy, but it is definately doable. along with wat has already been posted about the economy, that is definately a must. england definately gives the illusion of being easy because of the vast provinces, but it definately isn't the case.

my strat was to build up my economy as much as possible. and make scotland as happy as u can. u wont have to do too much, because scotland will quickly go to war with norway, and unless something wierd happends, they shouldn't bother u. i also allied with norway, because they r far enough away that encrochment wont be an issue for a while, so they shouldn't backstab u. in ireland i just tried to hang onto my provinces as much as a could, but didn't spend too much money over there. if u lose a city, so wat, ship ur troops back to the mainland. my number1 first focus is wales. consolidate ur forces and take them on from the get go. once u get them taken care of u will have another good city in montgomery, and a good fortress as well. u will also e very close to ireland to take them over. once wales and the irish r taken care of, it does kinda turn into a grind to take out scotland and norway, but by that time it is definately doable. i managed to take out wales and ireland in only 24 turns, but then spent about 50 taking out norway and scotland.

as for playing as norway, ive never played past turn 10 or so, cuz yes, it is very hard on the money in the begining, plus scotland always attacks ur village island. because of their millitary im sure they r very good once money is no longer a major issue, ive just never had the patiance to last that long.

[Hesus de bodemloze]

try playing norway this realy beets me and i play it on easy mode don t wanne know how it s like in hard mode pfffff -7000 money it even takes a while before you get a diplomat so asking for pease is not an option for the norway dudes thy have to fight till thy die :-)

[Chlodwig I.]

VH for combat isn't a problem

VH Game Map is well, it feels to unrealistic
so I play with H/VH, but even that is sometimes unrealistic, when your allys betray you for no reason, and only doing a blokade of a harbour.

Britain Campaign I played it once with Norway and its difficult but only because of the lack of money,
but if you get to a certain point in the game, its normaly done and you know that you will not loose the campaign.

[Heskey]

I do play VH unfortunately because although I'm not that great, I don't want the game to be a push over.

How do you mean VH is unrealistic? Tell you what I don't like in VH... the % of stuff; spies, merchants, assassins, it's TOO difficult. H/VH may be more my cup of tea.

Whilst I'm asking, does combat difficulty refer to the AI's intelligence, or a moral/unit strength handicap? (I.E. are VH spearmen harder to route than E spearmen?)

[Lost Crusader]

Whilst I'm asking, does combat difficulty refer to the AI's intelligence, or a moral/unit strength handicap? (I.E. are VH spearmen harder to route than E spearmen?)

No, the AI is always the same. The VH lowers morale of your troops, making them easier to rout. Also the fatigue have more impact then on lower dif. levels.

On VH you and AI are in the same position, while on lower levels you have the moral bonus.

[Duke_of_Bavaria]

I thought that the teutonic camp. was perfect in the beginning. I was forced to the defensive for like 30-40 turns. Russia and Lithuania attacked me from everywhere. Eventually I got allied with the Mongols and HRE, that messed up my game. It took me 10-15 turns to become the major power after that :/. Just too easy when they can't focus 100 % on you.
You have to go revered Caesar to make it hard, in other words you have to turn all the factions neutral against your enemies so that they can focus on you instead of playing them on each other. Quite boring and unrealistic diplomaticly but at least it's a challenge!

note to self: never allie with anybody.

ps. has anyone ever actually lost a campaign? I never have :/.

[Lost Crusader]

ps. has anyone ever actually lost a campaign? I never have :/.

No, I won them all .

[♔Darmoth♔]

I thought that the teutonic camp. was perfect in the beginning. I was forced to the defensive for like 30-40 turns. Russia and Lithuania attacked me from everywhere. Eventually I got allied with the Mongols and HRE, that messed up my game. It took me 10-15 turns to become the major power after that :/. Just too easy when they can't focus 100 % on you.
You have to go revered Caesar to make it hard, in other words you have to turn all the factions neutral against your enemies so that they can focus on you instead of playing them on each other. Quite boring and unrealistic diplomaticly but at least it's a challenge!

note to self: never allie with anybody.

ps. has anyone ever actually lost a campaign? I never have :/.

I've lost a campaign... As the Apache, my mistake was not going ahead and start killing the Europeans to steal their horses and guns. I had allied with New France and spent most of the campaign grinding against the Tarascans who wiped out the Aztec and Chichimech tribes. The reason I lost... the Mayans completed their 'campaign objectives' before me. The Mayans had appearantly killed off New Spain on the mainland, and New England as well.

Yes... I still consider myself a newbie. I was sort of getting decent with the pre-Kingdoms game before I started playing any of the new campaigns. I'm horrible because I can't figure out how to win with low quality troops in the beginning of most campaigns. I do okayish on defensive battles though.

[Chlodwig I.]

Lost......

Depends
- lost a game because I was completly wiped out...
ME1, HRE on VH and in the first turn everyone around declared war against me.
or in Shogun with some factions (yellow) also quite difficult to survive everyone attacking you....

maybe thats why I hate VH campaign setting....
Faction 1 is attacking you
Faction 2 is attacking you
Faction 3 is attacking Faction 1
but Faction 1 doesn't care and keeps on attacking you (without success) and gets destroyed by Faction 3....
I only encounter that stupid behaviour on VH, factions ignoring other enemys, or breaking long lasting alliance, which leads them into extrem worse situations and thier destruction.
thats why I don't play VH anymore

Kingdoms
Norway turn 2 my only General (and hire of the empire) betrayed the King....

well that guy had surely no brains

in MW1 I lost sometimes because the time ran out.

[Heskey]

Oh don't get me wrong - I PREFER factions that start with low numbers of settlements, because it's a ***** to start a game and go "Right... What've I got where...?"

I did the same on Barbarians - I wanted to play the Romans as I'm quite an imperialist (Hence playing England, and being English too ) and when I saw how many settlements they had and units spread everywhere, I just thought "Stuff that."

I never understand these people who finish the campaign within 100 turns, even in Vanilla - Do they just blitz without diplomatic concern? I think I was up to turn 24 with my Britannia campaign and all I'd done was still struggle with economy, and just sat on the border of wales trying to change culture.