Can I go to America with Byzantines???

**biohaker** · October 30, 2007, 11:36 AM

Hello I'm playing with Byzantines and I went with some Greek-fire ships, outside Gibraltar, but I wasn't able to pass to America. Only the Spanish can go?

**Empress Meg** · October 30, 2007, 11:39 AM

You must wait for an event to ccur that will "open up" that section of the map. The world is round message will eventually pop up but you'll need strong sea-going ships to sail over to the Americas, so make sure that you upgrade your docks. It takes alot of investment to sail over there, so be prepared.

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**biohaker** · October 30, 2007, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Empress Meg

You must wait for an event to ccur that will "open up" that section of the map. The world is round message will eventually pop up but you'll need strong sea-going ships to sail over to the Americas, so make sure that you upgrade your docks. It takes alot of investment to sail over there, so be prepared.

Devoirs The Empress

Do I need specific ships to sail to America? In what chronology does the event occur in the game?

Thank you a priori!

**Andy B** · October 30, 2007, 11:57 AM

either carrack, or wait for the " world is round " event... gota go finishin work @5 - edit this later.

**Empress Meg** · October 30, 2007, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by biohaker

Do I need specific ships to sail to America? In what chronology does the event occur in the game?

Thank you a priori!

I believe that you can build up your docks to the correct level before the "World is Round" event. You can also create the larger, sea-going ships as well. I make a small fleet of them and load up a few armies into the ships to wait for the event to ccur. That way I do not lose any time in the crossing- it does take several long turns to travel over there.

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**Captain Spanky** · November 01, 2007, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by Empress Meg

I believe that you can build up your docks to the correct level before the "World is Round" event.

I dont think that this is the case actually. From what I remember, you can build the merchant equivalent, (Docklands), for the trade bonus, but the optionto build the required docks to create ocean going ships, (Naval Drydock), only becomes available after the World Is Round event. I may be mistaken, but I'm fairly sure this is the case.

**Vor** · November 01, 2007, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Spanky

I dont think that this is the case actually. From what I remember, you can build the merchant equivalent, (Docklands), for the trade bonus, but the optionto build the required docks to create ocean going ships, (Naval Drydock), only becomes available after the World Is Round event. I may be mistaken, but I'm fairly sure this is the case.

If I recall correctly then Meg is correct, if your docks are build up high enough before the event all you have to do is build the ship and away you go.

**Vor** · October 30, 2007, 04:18 PM

In Stainless Steel 4.1 the event happens around 1400, not sure if its the same in Vanilla or other mods.

**Pivra** · October 30, 2007, 07:38 PM

I usually take everything in north Africa except for Egypt playing as the Byzantine, then cross into Iberia. By that time you will probably have good docks for America..... lol

**Renco** · October 31, 2007, 12:55 AM

I've always found that playing as the 'Westies' (Spain/Portugal, France and England/Scots) the americas are one of the luckiest things to ever happen. Spain/Portugal should have Lisbon with sufficent docks weel before the period, France has Paris and England/Scotland (though usually England) has Edinburgh. Anyone else, save maybe Moors, should probably stay in Europe and finish off there. It takes far to long to sail to Americas for easterly countries. In theory theres nothing stopping Byzantines, though Europe looks like a much less time consuming prize...

**T-wester** · November 01, 2007, 04:19 AM

It takes far to long to sail to Americas for easterly countries.

The trick is to call crusade or jihad on the aztec

**pwijnands** · November 01, 2007, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by T-wester

The trick is to call crusade or jihad on the aztec

That would be fun if you are the first to arrive and the other factions are still halfway. They'd be stuck with a big army in the middle of the ocean.

**biohaker** · November 02, 2007, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by T-wester

The trick is to call crusade or jihad on the aztec

Can I call a Crusade with Byzantines??

Originally Posted by Empress Meg

You must have the dockyard which can provide you the larger, sea-going ships. If you do not have these deep-drafted vessels, then you cannot sail to the Americas.

It is alot to keep up with and plan for in resources and time, but well worth the fun of trying to take a new world.

Devoirs The Empress

R u a woman? Do womans play TW?

Please edit your posts instead of double posting. You can have more then one quote in a post. -Empress Meg

**Mr. G** · November 02, 2007, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by biohaker

CAN I CALL A CRUSADE WITH BYZANTINES???

No.

**Empress Meg** · November 02, 2007, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by biohaker

Can I call a Crusade with Byzantines??

R u a woman? Do womans play TW?

No, you cannot call a Crusdade with this faction. Only Catholic factions are able to do so.

I am a woman yes. Women (irregular pulral of woman) do play NTW2 as my presence on these forums atests.

Devoirs The Empress

**Captain Spanky** · November 02, 2007, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Empress Meg

I am a woman yes. Women (irregular pulral of woman) do play NTW2 as my presence on these forums atests.

Good lord! A woman!? Dear me, I suppose next they'll be wanting the vote...

Now for something on topic. I dont really think it takes that long to travel to the Americas, certainly not so bad as to warrant the calling of a crusade/jihad. My problem was that I kept on forgetting to move my fleet every turn, took me extra time...

**Duke_of_Bavaria** · November 02, 2007, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by T-wester

The trick is to call crusade or jihad on the aztec

You have to get the event "the new world is inhabited" before you can call a crusade, there's no way around the problem. Just settle whatever war is going on in Europe, pay cash an terriotires. The new world is rich and vast. The AI usualy won't go there, just take one full stack with you and then fill up with mercenaries as you go on. The Aztecs mass hughe armies but they suck anyway so I advice you to bring at least 5-6 stacks of quality archers. If you create a super army with only the latest units you can conquer whole of the new world with it alone

. I did that with England. Yeoman Archers, Dismounted English Knights some pikemen and 3 cavalry + general.
I usualy don't find cavalry to be much of a use against the aztecs since you're fighting in thick forests most of the time.

If you do it properly the new world is a fun experience. If you do it like I did on my 1st game it sucks. I sent a general and some half assed troops that got ass kicked, I had to send a ship there again

.

**malcolm mcdowell** · November 02, 2007, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Renco

I've always found that playing as the 'Westies' (Spain/Portugal, France and England/Scots) the americas are one of the luckiest things to ever happen. Spain/Portugal should have Lisbon with sufficent docks weel before the period, France has Paris ...

isn't paris landlocked? but anyway, you have loads of options..., well at least 4/5. thats if you havent conquered anything!