Question about Satraps..

**Companion Cavalry** · October 28, 2007, 02:58 PM

Hooray this man is the faction leader, has over forty good traits, and also

is a satrap! How does a family member gain the satrap status, through

having a certain trait and being the faction leader?

**icydawgfish** · October 28, 2007, 03:49 PM

I'm assuming your cheating since you have insane amounts of money and have conquered all of that in less than 20 years. As for your question, I believe they get the satrap status if they stay in certain regions for a period of time and don't leave.

**Companion Cavalry** · October 28, 2007, 08:09 PM

icydawgfish, I've kept some family members inside cities for 40+ years and

nothing has happened maybe it's birth ethnicity or something?

And no this is without cheats, the money comes from the fact that this is on

easy meaning easier to maintain public order and I conquered so much also

because it's on easy and because armies with 1 talent stone projectors can

occupy cities in one turn

**icydawgfish** · October 28, 2007, 08:23 PM

Well, if I am correct, the Satrap regions are Hellas, Egypt, Media, Parthia, Babylonia, Baktria, India (that isn't the correct name), Pontus, Armenia, and I believe a few more, but I can't remember them off the top of my head.

**Teleklos Archelaou** · October 28, 2007, 09:52 PM

That's an ancillary. He was the satrap once and when you moved him out you didn't give the satrap 'title' over to someone else. As you know, ancillaries don't die, so it stayed with him permanently. What's the confusion?

**Companion Cavalry** · October 28, 2007, 10:36 PM

The confusion is what gives a family member the satrap ancillary in the first place.

I've kept family members in the cities icydawgfish listed for a long time with

none of them gaining the title

**abou** · October 28, 2007, 11:33 PM

It's a secret, unless you can decipher the right text files.

If it helps you though, consider that the more capable a person is the greater the chance that he will be given the title.

**Krusader** · October 29, 2007, 12:15 PM

I've been wanting to make some chart for showing how to get Satrapal titles alas havent found anyone with Photoshop skills to do so

**Companion Cavalry** · October 29, 2007, 09:29 PM

Okay so far I got another satrap in a new campaign

These traits were in common between the two

Sharp/Charismatic/Viguorous
Unselfish/Optimistic/Loyal/
Architect
Supervisor
Mathematician

Drawing ever closer to the answer that eludes us..

**Krusader** · October 29, 2007, 11:45 PM

Hope this helps.

Satrapal System:

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Satrapeia Baktrias
This man has been made satrap of Baktria, which also encompasses nearby Sogdiana and the surrounding Greek poleis. It is a truly prestigious position due to Baktria's famed wealth and also one of great importance as the satrapy is the first line of defense against the barbarian horse hordes of the northern steppes.

+2 Influence +1 Morale +1 Management

Can only be one of this ancillary in game.
Has to stay in Baktra 1 turns.
If FM has minimum 5 Influence there is a Uncommon chance to gain ancillary.
If FM stays 20 turns outside Baktra, Marakanda or Alexandreia-Eschate he gains 'Not in his Satrapy' trait.
Common Chance to gain for a FM with Loyal personality.
Very good chance to gain for a FM with 'Royal Friend' trait.

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Satrapeia Parthyaias
This man has been granted control of the satrapy of Parthyaia, a minor yet important satrapy in the northeastern borderlands. The Satrap's chief concerns is to cultivate the fertile river valleys, maintain the roads and most importantly to defend the kingdom from the barbarian Dahai horsemen to the north.

+2 Influence +1 Morale +1 Management

Can only be one of this ancillary in game.
Has to stay in Hekatompylos 1 turns.
If FM has minimum 5 Influence there is a Uncommon chance to gain ancillary.
If FM stays 20 turns outside Hekatompylos he gains 'Not in his Satrapy' trait.
Common Chance to gain for a FM with Loyal personality.
Very good chance to gain for a FM with 'Royal Friend' trait.

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Satrapeia Persidos
This man has been granted the satrapy of Persis, the ancient homeland of the Persians. Unless the borders change, his only concern is simply to raise taxes from the native Persian settlements and the recent Hellenic poleis.

+2 Influence +1 Morale +1 Management

Can only be one of this ancillary in game.
Has to stay in Persepolis 1 turns.
If FM has minimum 5 Influence there is a Uncommon chance to gain ancillary.
If FM stays 20 turns outside Persepolis he gains 'Not in his Satrapy' trait.
Common Chance to gain for a FM with Loyal personality.
Very good chance to gain for a FM with 'Royal Friend' trait.

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Satrapeia Babylonias
This man is the satrap of Babylonia, one of the most important satrapies within the Seleukid kingdom. His task is to make sure the Fertile Crescent is stable both in economically as well as politically, as any disturbance in Mesopotamia can seriously bring harm to the Arche Seleukeia.

+2 Influence +1 Morale +1 Management

Can only be one of this ancillary in game.
Has to stay in Seleukeia 1 turns.
If FM has minimum 5 Influence there is a Uncommon chance to gain ancillary.
If FM stays 20 turns outside Seleukeia he gains 'Not in his Satrapy' trait.
Common Chance to gain for a FM with Loyal personality.
Very good chance to gain for a FM with 'Royal Friend' trait.

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Satrapeia Sousianes
This man has been given the title of satrap of Susiana, ruling from Susa, one of the oldest and most important cities in of all Asia. Commanding the routes to and from Iran, Baktria, and India, the satrap's main concern is to keep the region protected and the routes open for trade, armies, and news to pass through unhindered.

+2 Influence +1 Morale +1 Management

Can only be one of this ancillary in game.
Has to stay in Susa 1 turns.
If FM has minimum 5 Influence there is a Uncommon chance to gain ancillary.
If FM stays 20 turns outside Susa he gains 'Not in his Satrapy' trait.
Common Chance to gain for a FM with Loyal personality.
Very good chance to gain for a FM with 'Royal Friend' trait.

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Satrapeia Medias
This man has been granted the title of Satrap of the Upper Satrapies which also includes the satrapy of Media, a highly important region within the Seleukid kingdom as it is from here the majority of cavalry is recruited. The satrap has to make sure the mountain tribes to the northwest are kept at bay and at the same time to protect and look after the interests of the local landed Iranian nobility and Hellenic settlements.

+3 Influence +1 Morale +1 Management

Can only be one of this ancillary in game.
Has to stay in Ekbatana 1 turns.
If FM has minimum 5 Influence there is a Uncommon chance to gain ancillary.
If FM stays 20 turns outside Ekbatana he gains 'Not in his Satrapy' trait.
Common Chance to gain for a FM with Loyal personality.
Very good chance to gain for a FM with 'Royal Friend' trait.

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Satrapeia Armenias
This man is the satrap of Armenia and a close associate of the King. The unruly Armenians have been brought to their knees and any satrap appointed to this region has to make sure the Armenians know their place as subjects, but at the same time be generous to those Armenians who see the benefits of loyalty.

+2 Influence +1 Morale +1 Management

Can only be one of this ancillary in game.
Has to stay in Armavir 1 turns.
If FM has minimum 5 Influence there is a Uncommon chance to gain ancillary.
If FM stays 20 turns outside Armavir he gains 'Not in his Satrapy' trait.
Common Chance to gain for a FM with Loyal personality.
Very good chance to gain for a FM with 'Royal Friend' trait.

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Epistrategos tes Mikras Asias
This man is the governor of Mikra Asia, the lands west of the Tauros Mountains. His job is to protect these lands from the many neighbors encircling the borders and also to maintain the katoikiai, military settlements of the Seleukids, for the royal armies.

+3 Influence +1 Morale +1 Management

Can only be one of this ancillary in game.
Has to stay in either Ipsos & Sardis for 1 turns.
If FM has minimum 5 Influence there is a Uncommon chance to gain ancillary.
Common Chance to gain for a FM with Loyal personality.
Very good chance to gain for a FM with 'Royal Friend' trait.

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Strategos tou Indou
This man is a strategos or viceroy, of India, tasked with defending the eastern border of the Seleukid kingdom from the Indian rajas to the east and also to make sure that the wealth of India pours west into Iran and further on to the cities of Mesopotamia and Syria.

+3 Influence +1 Morale +1 Management

Can only be one of this ancillary in game.
Has to stay in Taksashila or Opiana for 1 turns.
If FM has minimum 5 Influence there is a Uncommon chance to gain ancillary.
Common Chance to gain for a FM with Loyal personality.
Very good chance to gain for a FM with 'Royal Friend' trait.

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Archon tes Aigyptou
This man has been given the title of Archon of Egypt. His task is to protect the rich lands along the Neilos River and make sure the local Hellenes & Aigyptioi alike know Seleukid rule is preferable than that of incestuous freaks.

+3 Influence +1 Morale +1 Management

Can only be one of this ancillary in game.
Has to stay in Alexandreia or Mephis for 1 turns.
If FM has minimum 5 Influence there is a Uncommon chance to gain ancillary.
Common Chance to gain for a FM with Loyal personality.
Very good chance to gain for a FM with 'Royal Friend' trait.

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Archon tes Makedonias
This man has been granted a truly prestigious title, that of Archon of Makedonia. It's his duty to administer the true homelands of the Seleukid Kings and their many followers and to make sure no one threatens the western holdings of the Basileos kai Basileon.

+3 Influence +1 Morale +1 Management

Can only be one of this ancillary in game.
Has to stay in Pella for 1 turns.
If FM has minimum 5 Influence there is a Uncommon chance to gain ancillary.
Common Chance to gain for a FM with Loyal personality.
Very good chance to gain for a FM with 'Royal Friend' trait.

**Ludens** · October 30, 2007, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Krusader

Satrapeia Babylonias
This man is the satrap of Babylonia, one of the most important satrapies within the Seleukid kingdom. His task is to make sure the Fertile Crescent is stable both in economically as well as politically, as any disturbance in Mesopotamia can seriously bring harm to the Arche Seleukeia.

+2 Influence +1 Morale +1 Management

Can only be one of this ancillary in game.
Has to stay in Seleukeia 1 turns.
If FM has minimum 5 Influence there is a Uncommon chance to gain ancillary.
If FM stays 20 turns outside Seleukeia he gains 'Not in his Satrapy' trait.
Common Chance to gain for a FM with Loyal personality.
Very good chance to gain for a FM with 'Royal Friend' trait.

Isn't a bit odd that the Satrap of Babylon is considered to be not in his Satrapy if he resides in Babylon rather than Seleukeia?

Thanks for the list!

**abou** · October 30, 2007, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Ludens

Isn't a bit odd that the Satrap of Babylon is considered to be not in his Satrapy if he resides in Babylon rather than Seleukeia?

Thanks for the list!

Yeah, funny thing about that. The area is at time just generally called Babylon (at least as far as I know). Babylon itself is ruled by a sort of client ruler, but the area itself is under control of the satrap, who rules from Seleukeia.

Can you dig it?

**Aetius** · October 30, 2007, 10:04 PM

Archon tes Aigyptou
This man has been given the title of Archon of Egypt. His task is to protect the rich lands along the Neilos River and make sure the local Hellenes & Aigyptioi alike know Seleukid rule is preferable than that of incestuous freaks.

Too true....

**Ludens** · October 31, 2007, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by abou

Yeah, funny thing about that. The area is at time just generally called Babylon (at least as far as I know). Babylon itself is ruled by a sort of client ruler, but the area itself is under control of the satrap, who rules from Seleukeia.

I see. I think this should be mentioned in the description, though. I mean, who'd think that the Satrap of Babylon will be considered "out of his satrapy" when staying in Babylon?

**abou** · October 31, 2007, 10:46 PM

That is a fair point, Ludens. Generally, the ideal is that while the Type IV is still present in Babylon it would be bad form for the satrap to rule there when ideally it should be a client ruler/native priest or whatever. I'll make note of this and hope to remember to slightly describe the conditions in the next release.

The only problem is to describe it so as not to damage the atmosphere.