Queastion:Population script

[mailor]

Hi!

First of all: I don't know nothing about scripting.

I am just tweaking the population growth rates, and since it is only possible to have growth rates in 0.5% steps (-3%, -2.5% -2% ... 0%,+0.5%, +1%, ... , +3%) I am very limited to include a little randomness in the population growth.

Now here comes my question: Would it be possible, to make a script, that randomly adds population to a city/castle, depending on it's size?

For example:
a village would gain/lose every turn up to 50 citizens (randomly)

A huge citadel would gain/lose randomly up to 2000 people per turn. (i am just making these numbers up right now, I haven't thought this through yet).

This would bring some randomness in population growth. It is just stupid, if you have a population growth rate of 0%, that the Population stays exactly the same every turn (a few people always die or are born).

And yes, I know on the long run statistically the gains/losses would even themselves out, but I still want this randomness.

So can anyone tell me if this is possible, and if so, how I do it?


Thanks, mailor.

[Caesar Clivus]

I'll post this here and in the SS thread. Not being an expert scripter myself, a problem I can foresee is that you may have to write a script that includes every settlement on the map by name. Such scripts may slow down the game turns quite a bit, as this is how the garrison scripts work.

[mailor]

Hmmm... Probably.

I just had an idea! Is it true, that you only can have a large town (for example) when you build a wooden wall? Do cities/castle only change their "rank" (motte and baily - wood castle - stone castle ect. and village - town - large town) whenm you build the walls?

If that is the case, it would theoretically possible to "bind" the script to buildings (in this case walls, which define the type of the city/castle anyway)

[Caesar Clivus]

I think however you would still need to run a script for every settlement to actually add/subtract the population though...unless there is another way of doing so other than the add_population command.

[alpaca]

Scripts that are executed for each settlement aren't necessarily slow. The main problem with the garrison scripts is that they use monitor_conditions with a lot of conditions. These are executed with a heartbeat every few fractions of a second - and this is what really slows things down. If you just use monitor_events your AI turns will be a lot faster.

[mailor]

Alpaca: you seem to be the scripting guru around here. Do you have any suggestions for my idea?

[alpaca]

Alpaca: you seem to be the scripting guru around here. Do you have any suggestions for my idea?

Well you can't use the actual population but you can use the core building level as a condition.

Then just write some ifs using RandomPercent as conditions and set it up as you wish.

[mailor]

Thanks for the info alpaca. I don't understand it though. Could you write this script please?

Sorry, I am not trying to be an ass here, but I think I am too stupid for this kind of thing

[GrnEyedDvl]

You arent too stupid you just need to take some time to learn the language and the syntax. Not only that since you havent listed any "hard" numbers, just examples, I doubt alpaca or anyone else will get it right for you on the first shot.

Check out the docudemons for conditions you would like to apply and try something like this:


monitor_event SettlementTurnEnd London
if SettlementBuildingExists = stone_wall
and RandomPercent >50
console_command add_population London 500
end_if
end_monitor

Throw your own conditions in that then copy it for each settlement.

[mailor]

Thanks a lot GrnEyedDvl! I'll try this out right away. I think this is whate I needed to hear! cheers dudes!

[alpaca]

You arent too stupid you just need to take some time to learn the language and the syntax. Not only that since you havent listed any "hard" numbers, just examples, I doubt alpaca or anyone else will get it right for you on the first shot.

Check out the docudemons for conditions you would like to apply and try something like this:


monitor_event SettlementTurnEnd London
if SettlementBuildingExists = stone_wall
and RandomPercent >50
console_command add_population London 500
end_if
end_monitor

Throw your own conditions in that then copy it for each settlement.

Correction:

monitor_event SettlementTurnEnd SettlementName London
and SettlementBuildingExists = stone_wall

if RandomPercent > 50
console_command add_population London 500
end_if
end_monitor

You have to create a monitor for each settlement/level combination with that script. There's a slightly better (imo) way but it's much more complicated, so I'd just advise you to go with this for now and return if it goes too slowly.

GrnEyedDvl: Be careful not to give noobs wrong ideas about what works and what doesn't gotta love that smiley

[GrnEyedDvl]

lol yeah I just banged that out late last night. Still it points him in the general direction.

My own fav smiley:

Took that off my boards as its not on twc.

[alpaca]

lol yeah I just banged that out late last night. Still it points him in the general direction.

My own fav smiley:

Took that off my boards as its not on twc.

Yeah I know the problem. Happens to me all the time.

Actually, my favourite smiley is this one from civfanatics:

I should maybe write at least one on-topic point in the post, but I'm just too lazy.