Elephant numbers for Karthadast

**Leão magno** · October 18, 2007, 05:15 AM

I do not know if this happens with all elephants but in my current campaing as Karthadastim I use the towered Libian elephantes and the unit card shows a 36 men unit. When the battles began I only have 18 men on it. After battle, this is the number appearing in the unit card, I send them back to city, spend my money and they are complete again just to be 18 in the next battle... Have anyone noticed this behavior? Observe that this is my first and only camping in EB 1.0

**Watchman** · October 18, 2007, 07:04 AM

That's 'cause there's three men per elephant - the mahout and two archers in the tower. The stratmap unit card on the other hand shows the number of elephants (or chariots - same thing).

It's always been that way in RTW.

Although it could also be you've got unit size set to small...

**Leão magno** · October 18, 2007, 10:08 AM

Sorry but I do not think so, it never hapenned this way in RTW history. I always play on huge and the elphants unit card always showed the real number of "crew" members. in this case 36 would be 12 elephants with 12 riders and 24 archers, so elephants are not counted, besides if it was so, why would every elephant (complete units) star the battle map with only one archer? And why, after battle withou losing anyone, the unit card in the campaing comes to show not the 36 but the 18? If it was the way the engine counts, I mean, if it was that unit card was counting with elephants the number would go back to 36 after the end of the battle...

Something may be wrong here, try playing with them for yourself and pay attention to the units numbers in and out of battle, look if the entire crew is there in the battle map.

**Watchman** · October 18, 2007, 10:18 AM

Ah, must've remembered wrong how the darn hefalumps and such were treated by the UI cards then.

Hmm, the unit card for the towered forest 'fants only shows one archer. Could be the model can only house one fighting crewman, and the 3-1 crew-'fant ratio in the EDU is plain wrong. I imagine that would indeed result in the stratmap showing three men per animal, but only two being present on the battlefield. This should probably be pursued further, as there was a bit embarassing statting issue with the African elephants too (the one with crew and animal defense values having swapped places).