UFO'S exist?

[J@mes]

To the demand of new threads i am creating a thread on UFO's

do they exist? I read the first evidence where of a man in Ethiopia 310,000,000 BC what do you guys think are we alone?

[HansDuet]

A life in other planets most likely exists, but i dont belive they make joyrides in earths athmosphere capturing people.

[RZZZA]

a distinction should be made between ufo's and aliens.


I think they exist, too many credible people have put their careers on the line to bring forward their testimony. Why the aliens don't make contact should be obvious, we're barbaric savages thats why. But I think they study, pop in and out every now and then, kidnap some people, make a few alien hybrids, do a few anal probes and a few cattle mutilations and then theyre off whizz bang into the stars!

[J@mes]

what do you guys think about the Area 51 thing and roswell? i hope i can talk about this on here and not have to worrie about going missing...

[RZZZA]

I think, if roswell did happen...infact if anything concerning aliens happens, the government keeps it secret because they don't want it known that the sole entity entrusted with national defense fails so badly at it.

If Aliens exist, they are as Gods to us, and theres no sense fretting about something you cannot control. Humans have gotten too used to being the top of the food chain, I've always wondere how different humanity would be if monsters and vampires truly did exist, and humans were no longer the top of the food chain but prey....how different would our every day mentalities be.

[HansDuet]

If Aliens exist, they are as Gods to us, and theres no sense fretting about something you cannot control. Humans have gotten too used to being the top of the food chain, I've always wondere how different humanity would be if monsters and vampires truly did exist, and humans were no longer the top of the food chain but prey....how different would our every day mentalities be.

What makes the aliens automatically more advanced than us?
They might be lizards or monkeys to us...
But those who are capable to interstellar flight are offcourse more advanced no doubt.

[Giorgos]

Something tells me in my gut that aliens don't exist. Yeah, we could very much be the only sentients in the whole universe.
I find it more likely that it is used as a means of attention diversion and the fervent believers make the puppeteer's work that much easier.

[Oswald von Wolkenstein]

Aliens definitely exist:

[RZZZA]

oh come on, too many people who had nothing at all to gain and everything to lose have put themselves out on the line to publically state "I believe in aliens, ive had experiences" why would all of them lie? Why would all of them put themselves at risk from nosy reporters, why would you sacrifice your job and have people question your sanity for a lie that doesn't even profit you.

[Giorgos]

oh come on, too many people who had nothing at all to gain and everything to lose have put themselves out on the line to publically state "I believe in aliens, ive had experiences" why would all of them lie? Why would all of them put themselves at risk from nosy reporters, why would you sacrifice your job and have people question your sanity for a lie that doesn't even profit you.

"i never had sexual relationships with that woman"

Why the lie i ask you?

[RZZZA]

thats different, that lie had the intention of directly benefiting him if it had worked. What do people who work in government agencies have to gain by sacrificing their well paying jobs to stand for something they believe in strongly?

Kenneth Arnold was a businessman and a pilot, how did it benefit him to sacrifice his business and his pilot license by making outrageous claims about flying saucers? They were liable to lock him up in a loony bin

[Giorgos]

thats different, that lie had the intention of directly benefiting him if it had worked. What do people who work in government agencies have to gain by sacrificing their well paying jobs to stand for something they believe in strongly?

Kenneth Arnold was a businessman and a pilot, how did it benefit him to sacrifice his business and his pilot license by making outrageous claims about flying saucers? They were liable to lock him up in a loony bin

I am not saying he lied. He explained what he saw. He could have been misguided in any number of ways.

[RZZZA]

The government explained what kenneth saw as a mirage, I find it hard to believe an experienced pilot can mistake a mirage for flying saucers. let alone a number of them doing complex aerial stunts and whatnot.



also, bigfoot is REAL son

[cfmonkey45]

The government explained what kenneth saw as a mirage, I find it hard to believe an experienced pilot can mistake a mirage for flying saucers. let alone a number of them doing complex aerial stunts and whatnot.



also, bigfoot is REAL son

Or that it's NOT a mirage, but actually classified military aircraft in formation. Did you know that during WWII, Nazi engineers and aviators wanted to create an aircraft that had VTOL (Vertical Take-Off and Landing) capabilities? They apparently settled on a circular design, however, the aircraft was not successful as it was very unstable. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...2/Haunebu3.jpg) Only a handful were ever produced, however, after the war, those prototypes fell into the hands of the U.S. Military.

I have a question for you UFO theorists and believers, How likely is it that a ship of extraterrestrial origin travelled for hundreds, if not thousands, of light-years to crash land outside of a small U.S. military base in 1947, way out in the middle of the desert in New Mexico? If you ask me, extremely unlikely. I find it more probable that it was actually a U.S. prototype based upon the afore mention Nazi design that unfortunately crash-landed, probably killing its test crew. The cover-up was due to the Cold War, because if you have a superior aircraft, why on Earth should you let them know of it so they can spy on you?

[Giorgos]

Mate, you are too young for me to be your son.

It could have very well been a mirage or any other natural factor which or cannot be accurately explained by any government. It's not the first time that pilots mess up their careers after vocally speaking for something they couldn't explain.

[Hattori]

Unidentified Flying Objetcs =/= aliens visiting us from another planet. UFO's definetly exist and were spoted so many times you cant deny that... And like RZZA said, too many people have come forward with it.
Watch the disclosure project press conference video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk

[Giorgos]

You are not convincing. Then again, i am not easily convinced about anything i haven't experienced first hand.

[Parky]

Aliens definatley exist. UFOs in the earths atmosphere... probably not.
The Universe is so impossibly large, it makes it pratically impossible for there not to be aliens, almost. I was very interested when Scientists had said they had found a planet similar to ours... Several lightyears away. Even if there was life on that planet, will the human race have died out by the time man has discovered fullblown space travel?
Anyway, back on UFOs. I don't think they exist personally, only in that even if a race greater than ourselves had the technology to travel across the universe, they have far too many destinations to choose from, only way i beleive in UFOs is when they come from Mars , more likeley than another galaxy.
Good thread btw J@mes

[RZZZA]

son as in the common expression meaning friend, not in the literal sense.

Theres an overwhelming amount of testimonial from a great many people spanning the many decades of human history and the many nations and ethnicities of human diversity from every country in every corner of the world. Could there be more concrete evidence? yes, government transparency cant hurt here. But the sheer amount of people, most of which are of average intelligence and with no ulterior motives, who have reported seeing something unexplainable I think warrants further investigation and warrants taking the issue seriously and not just brushing it off as I get the feeling you are doing now.

members of government, the people entrusted with national defense, have been victims of ufo encounters to the point where national security was threatened. Missile silos malfunctioning, that sorta thing.


"Several military and intelligence witnesses who were Strategic
Air Command ...SAC) and other nuclear specialists have come
forward with testimony proving that UFOs are real and appear to
be concerned about our nuclear weapons.

The Disclosure Project ...http://www.disclosureproject.org/) has
obtained the first-hand testimony of several such insiders whose
documents and corroborating testimony proves that UFOs have
monitored sensitive nuclear facilities since at least the 1950s.
While the UFOs were not hostile, it was made clear that they
were very concerned about human weapons of mass destruction.
On one occasion, UFOs over a SAC Nuclear launch area took
more than a dozen intercontinental ballistic missiles ...ICBMs)
offline."


zomg! Theyve traveled zillions of lightyears to stop ourselves from killing eachother, whodathunk it?

http://www.cohenufo.org/Military%20N...%20Reality.htm

[Magic Man]

members of government, the people entrusted with national defense, have been victims of ufo encounters to the point where national security was threatened. Missile silos malfunctioning, that sorta thing.


"Several military and intelligence witnesses who were Strategic
Air Command ...SAC) and other nuclear specialists have come
forward with testimony proving that UFOs are real and appear to
be concerned about our nuclear weapons.

The Disclosure Project ...http://www.disclosureproject.org/) has
obtained the first-hand testimony of several such insiders whose
documents and corroborating testimony proves that UFOs have
monitored sensitive nuclear facilities since at least the 1950s.
While the UFOs were not hostile, it was made clear that they
were very concerned about human weapons of mass destruction.
On one occasion, UFOs over a SAC Nuclear launch area took
more than a dozen intercontinental ballistic missiles ...ICBMs)
offline."

Now im really freaked out