Cvria Ivlia, Consulate of Brvtvs/Constantinvs (senate records)

[Winter]

(ooc) Oh I must have missed that part about the attack. This is an unusual lapse for me.

Never mind, I retract that.

Motion to take just Bononia:

Yay 6 - 2 Nay

[68 Powers]

Ave Senator,

I do not understand are we not conquering their city?

Delenda est Carthago!

[Kritias]

We are agreed then Senators.As I have ample time now I shall order the retaliation on the Veneti right away.I guess you all agree in enslaving the populace? If so,I will be on my way...

[68 Powers]

Then grant land to Roman colonists Consul.
I am sure i have populare backing on this.

As i do expect the Optimate support..
Delenda est Carthago!

[Winter]

I am against enslaving the populace of these cities. Instead, enslave the leaders of these peoples, let them live forever under the might of the people they would have destroyed. Besides, new slaves would take more work from the Plebians, which the Populares should understand.

I do agree with the colonist idea. It would be a good step towards Romanizing the Barbarians as well, so optimates should back the colonist idea.

[EmperorCharles]

It is true retaliation is in order for an unprovoked attack but is not killing their men enough? need we bring them back in chains as well? How dose that make us better then they. I say for now we show mercy but, should they rise again against us let the reprimanding be hard but then and only then.

[We shall fwee...Wode]

I have no care for these people as they are umimportant and few in number. I think that in this case they should be enslaved for their agression and support the plan to fill their place with Roman Colonists!

Motion for enslavement yay 2 - 1 nay

Motion for colonists taking their place yay 3 -0 nay

ooc: correct me if those tallies are wrong

[Winter]

Yes, let us ally with these people like the Italians before them. This will cement our alliance with them, and they will be less likely to rise against us in the case of an invasion.

If this motion for enslavement passes I may veto it.

Motion for enslavement yay 2 - 2 nay

[Kritias]

Agreed.No action will be taken against the populace as all Tribunes agree and any further motion would meet a veto...I will be leaving immediately.


Valete Senatores
Roma Invicta.

[Nardril]

Their Nobles must be Enslaved.. they are so use to being free that uprising is almost a cerinatly..
They must be punished men of rome..

Motion for enslavement yay 3 - 2 nay
Motion for colonists taking their place yay 4 -0 nay

Brother i support you motion for Colonists.
As for Syracusa as allies we must allie with them to keep the balance in Sicily and to gain some freinds in this world.


Delenda est Carthago!

[EmperorCharles]

Motion for enslavement yay 3 - 3 nay
Motion for colonists taking their place yay 5 -0 nay

(adding my vote)

[Winter]

I do support the Colonist plan

Motion for colonists taking their place yay 6 -0 nay

however, we should discuss the plans for this emigration. We don't want to lose to much of the work force.

I do not mind enslaving the nobles of these settlements, cato. They ordered these attacks and should be punished. It is the normal people that I do not want led back to Rome in chains.

Why is it you are rushing to enslave these nobles but would easily leave the Tarantine fools alone?

[68 Powers]

Ave Fromer consul,

Because Tarentum fools.. Were not Fools they were Slaves under Phyruss and were wishing to be liberated and we did so.
i dont want to hear the "But they called them" Lie i dont care..

But these Nobles used their own Citizens and Men to Attack us.. No Greeks or Gauls.. Their own and for that kind of agression they should be punished!

Delenda est Carthago!

[Winter]

The Tarantines sent there own men after us. There were tarantine hoplites in the armies that fought us and I have a Tarantine helmet in my possession that one of my legates gave me as a souvenir.

Do not tell me the Tarantine oligarchs were scared children waiting to be freed.

[Nardril]

Ave,

Well then Senator,
I supose some Tarentum Nobles did not believe in our cause and for that they meet their fate.
I dont want ohear anymore of the past and lets focus on the future and present.

Delenda est Carthago!

[Winter]

It was just meant to be a simple statement. Surely the past is behind us and we must focus on this new battle.

[Winter]

And just to make it official

Motion for enslavement

Vetoed

[68 Powers]

Im glad you pointed that out Senator..
You made an excellent point but i have good reasons for Tarentum people to be unharmed.

Delenda est Carthago!

[Calvin]

Ah good, my nay vote is not needed. Finally a good use of the veto.

[kon_air]

Ave Senators,

Their Nobles must be enslaved as i would rather be feared than loved.
As for the Principes Office i am Declining that office i would not qualify for it sorry consul...

Cato you alos have my full complete and utter support in your colonist idea and the Alliance with Syracusa,

Alliance with Syracusa
4 yay - 0 nay

Delenda est Carthago!