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    Default You are the Next President of The United States what do you do next?

    Ok im in a political mood I saw O'Reilly factor,Glen Beck, John Stewart and Colbert report in the same day. So my question is Ure elected President of The United States in next years election, We have Huge problems obviously, so lets hear what you would do???

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    Ok, I'm in the mood so I'll make a list of a few things I'd do.

    1. Go visit Iran and give a few speaches on why the 'west' seems to hate them. Hopefully a presidential visit would throw them off balance and help them make the decision to allow the UN full and uncontrolled access to thier Nuclear enrichment program.

    2. Visit a number of european countries and advocate them to abolish the EU and opt for a more democratic government.

    3. Visit china and discuss a number of problems, such as thier inaccurate currency exchange rate.

    4. Start cutting funding to Iraq, while increasing the US role in training thier police and military along with providing them with great 2nd hand up-armored humvees and abrams tanks.

    5. Obliterate the Afganastan Opium fields. Using our unmaned air vehicles to spot the fields and military forces to burn them before harvest.

    6. Cut the funding to the war on marijuana and give that money to the war on other drugs (especially meth). Also, pushing congress to leagalize marijuana, leaving states open to decide wether or not it will be legal in thier own state.

    7. Begin massive cuts in the buget (mostly in the debt intrest zone, by refusing the FED its intrest payments, as well as in the military, mostly by cutting overseas operations) As well as retaking the role of printing currency for the government.

    8. Push for a universal healthcare system that is voluntary and only paid for by people who use it (exempt status for thoes that opt for private insurance).

    9. Visit cuba, and invite castro to come to washington to discuss economic aid and the breaking down of the embargo. (working on the philosiphy that friends are earned with kindness, while enemies are still your enemies if you treat them bad)

    10. Probibly finish the border fence, while making obtaining citizenship easier for everyone, and making legal crossing of the border fast and painless. The same with canada (except with no fence)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    1. Go visit Iran and give a few speaches on why the 'west' seems to hate them. Hopefully a presidential visit would throw them off balance and help them make the decision to allow the UN full and uncontrolled access to thier Nuclear enrichment program.
    What would you say in these speaches? Seems to me it's asking for a backlash. Also such a visit would be a security nightmare, not necessarily because of any particular danger but I'm sure the Iranians would have problems with the raft of security measures that follow the US president around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    2. Visit a number of european countries and advocate them to abolish the EU and opt for a more democratic government.
    This would probably spark a pro EU backlash in many states (Or at least add to pan-European sentiments among many). Or is that your intention? Not that I'm claiming the current EU system is particularly democratic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    5. Obliterate the Afganastan Opium fields. Using our unmaned air vehicles to spot the fields and military forces to burn them before harvest.
    This will only cause widespread resentment among the population and support for the Taliban to rise (not to mention the resulting poverty). Buying the opium and offering incentives to plant other crops is the way to go.


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    6. Cut the funding to the war on marijuana and give that money to the war on other drugs (especially meth). Also, pushing congress to leagalize marijuana, leaving states open to decide wether or not it will be legal in thier own state.
    Sounds reasonable. Not sure how reaslistic it is though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    7. Begin massive cuts in the buget (mostly in the debt intrest zone, by refusing the FED its intrest payments, as well as in the military, mostly by cutting overseas operations) As well as retaking the role of printing currency for the government.
    Governments printing money is really dangerous for an economy, and goes against modern economic principles at a pretty basic level. See: Latin America.

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    8. Push for a universal healthcare system that is voluntary and only paid for by people who use it (exempt status for thoes that opt for private insurance).
    Everybody who can afford private healthcare will choose to do so. There will be no money for such a universal healhcare system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    9. Visit cuba, and invite castro to come to washington to discuss economic aid and the breaking down of the embargo. (working on the philosiphy that friends are earned with kindness, while enemies are still your enemies if you treat them bad)
    Sounds good

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    Hire Siblesz as head advisor incognito, he knows everything. Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by christof139 View Post
    Hire Siblesz as head advisor incognito, he knows everything. Chris
    He would just end up letting USA colonized by China.


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    Take complete control of the government, turn it into an authoritarian type government temporarily so i have complete control, then disband congress and the senate, get rid of lobbyists and beaurocrats, sever by whatever means necessary the corporations and rich's death grip on the US government, root out corruption wherever it is, do a complete overhaul on the government at every level throughout the nation. And if necessary, start all over again and try to come up with an updated constitution, new senate and specific laws forbidding lobbyists and beaurocrats to meddle in decision making processes. If the population doesn't wanna change things on their own, then i will use the military and drag them kicking and screaming and hopefully they realize i did it for the greater good and thank me in the future.
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    say i am a gay transexual and watch all the little right wing heads go "pop"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoZz View Post
    say i am a gay transexual and watch all the little right wing heads go "pop"
    you forgot atheist. (although pagan could suffice)

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    1. Start rounding up the illegal immigrants, especially the Asians and the Mexicans, and kick them out of the country.

    2. Build a wall.

    3. Disband the US Border Patrol, finish up the business in Iraq and get our boys out of fighting other peoples' wars and put them to patrolling our borders, which is the first duty of any soldier.

    4. Destroy all the anti-gun legislation, within reason. Obviously, citizens shouldn't have access to sniper rifles and explosive ordinance.

    5. Make every person coming out of high school serve a mandatory two year service in the military. Having everybody have military experience can never hurt a nation.

    6. Become non-interventionist. We'll trade with you, but there's no point in us meddling in your affairs.

    7. Privatize health care completely. No more welfare state. That's not the FEDERAL government's job. States are fine.

    8. Make English the national language.

    That's all from the top of my head right now.

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    1. Give a rabble-rousing speech at my inauguration about constitutionalism and libertarianism.

    2. Veto practically everything Congress sends to my desk, because most of their laws are garbage.

    3. Try to lean on Congress in order to make them reduce taxes, spending, etc.

    4. Fail to achieve 3 because I've already ticked them off by vetoing their stuff.

    5. My master plan is attained: the government is hopelessly gridlocked, because that's really the best I can hope to achieve in regards to legislation.

    6. Maybe a justice will die or something. I appoint a new one, congress rejects him, and we now have eight justices for the rest of my presidency. Gridlock now extends to all government branches

    7. I give speeches condemning illegal immigrants and do everything in my power to annoy them.

    8. La Raza (the illegal community's premier political and propaganda machine) and associated groups react violently against this treatment and begin a campaign of protesting and anti-me propaganda.

    9. La Raza being what it is, angers everyone but illegal immigrants and creates great fervor and publicity about the issue in the process.

    10. While the nation polarizes between pro-illegals and their counterparts, I step up a propaganda campaign against the Democrats' latest attempts at amnesty, accusing them of favoring Mexican citizens over American citizens.

    11. Since La Raza has already shot itself in the foot and the Democrats can't stir up patriotic feelings to save their lives, I win and measures are passed on both state and national levels to fix the illegal problem in an attempt to appease furious voters.

    12. With the credibility of Congress damaged I am finally able to pass measures such as tax cuts, reducing spending, paying off the debt, reducing welfare, reducing tariffs, etc.

    Foreign Policy:

    1. No citizen of Saudi Arabia, or anyone who at any time was a citizen of Saudi Arabia, may enter Iraq for any reason, unless he is a diplomat. All Saudi Arabians currently in Iraq must leave immediately or be deported.

    2. All movement of civilians across the Iraqi border ceases. Troops are shifted to the border for this purpose. I will rely more heavily on the Iraqi military to protect the country's interior. If the Iraqi government objects to all this, then too bad for them.

    3. I encourage Israel to take a harder stance against Syria.

    4. Mass the majority of the aforementioned border troops and as much heavy equipment as can be spared on the Iraqi-Iranian border and dare Ali Khamenei to do something about it.

    5. Inform the Kurds that Turkey is more important to me than they are, and that they should keep that in mind when the independent Kurdistan issue comes up.

    6. Try to start trouble (secretly, obviously) between Israel and Syria, hopefully leading to war.

    7. If war happens, inform Iran that their options are to either mind their own business or be invaded.

    8. By stopping the flow of people through Iraq and distracting Iran and Syria, violence in Iraq will hopefully be reduced. The chaos in the rest of the region is irrelevant to my interests.

    9. Deny that I had anything to do with the war and make it look like I want peace.

    10. Let the poor Afghans grow their stinking opium.

    11. Keep the status quo with China for now.

    12. Try to subtly undermine Hugo Chavez, but in such a way that he can't gain support by linking these activities to America.
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    What would you say in these speaches? Seems to me it's asking for a backlash. Also such a visit would be a security nightmare, not necessarily because of any particular danger but I'm sure the Iranians would have problems with the raft of security measures that follow the US president around.
    Why, I'll be quite frank about it. Inform them that the west (or america, because I would feel bad about claiming to speak for a billion people) does not tolerate that thier politicians demand the destruction of one of our allies and friends. And that America would fully support Iran in developing thier civilian nuclear capabilities, if the EU and US would be allowed to keep a team of inspectors readily available to make sure that none of the enriched uranium makes it into the hands of non-civilian people (military, militants, terrorists).

    This would probably spark a pro EU backlash in many states (Or at least add to pan-European sentiments among many). Or is that your intention? Not that I'm claiming the current EU system is particularly democratic.
    I believe I wrote that part wrong, I would head to Europe and advocate making the EU a democratic state (with national representatives elected by thier respective countries).

    This will only cause widespread resentment among the population and support for the Taliban to rise (not to mention the resulting poverty). Buying the opium and offering incentives to plant other crops is the way to go.
    Your right, people are stupid. They'd problibly have forgotten about the fact that the Taliban burnt thier fields too. While I wouldn't buy the opium, I would offer incentives to plant other crops - and some support for the people whoes fields I had burnt... or perhaps I could assist in the opium smuggling operation into China.

    Sounds reasonable. Not sure how reaslistic it is though.
    I don't understand how unrealistic it could be? Simply redeploy the federal agents sniffing out the Marijuana to finding Cocane and Meth labs.

    Governments printing money is really dangerous for an economy, and goes against modern economic principles at a pretty basic level. See: Latin America.
    I find that private corporations printing money is dangerous for the economy. Especially when that money is then loaned to the government with intrest.

    Everybody who can afford private healthcare will choose to do so. There will be no money for such a universal healhcare system.
    Seed money from the general fund would artificially lower the actual rate that would be charged for the first few decades. Lowering the actual tax rate to below that which the insurance companies would charge. So either the insurance companies would lower thier rates, or die off - either way, the plan works to lower costs.
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    I'm voting for El Brujo!

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    El Brujo for dictator!


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    Shoot myself
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    This is an impossible question given we lack the insider knowledge to address most of these issues comprehensively.
    That, and the composition of the Senate as well as the results of the election (i.e. did I win only because the other candidate was abysmally bad/scandalous) are also important things to consider.





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    Nail every intern in a dress who blinked for too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cluny the Scourge View Post
    Nail every intern in a dress who blinked for too long.
    Totally man.
    Roman sex orgy in the oval office.

    Also I would:
    -Abolish Intelligent design
    -Declare Ted Haggard to be offically gay
    -Declare that the RIAA and media companies are *******s and any lawsuit they got running for copyright violation and illegal downloading gets turned down.
    - Remove the silly blockade on Cuba
    - Create the ministry of Silly Walks
    - Give Hollywood an ultimatum to create decent movies within 2 years or I will nuke them.

    That's all I can think about right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TB666 View Post
    - Give Hollywood an ultimatum to create decent movies within 2 years or I will nuke them.
    ha! I like that one. I'd vote for you just because of this.
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    Well im not claiming I would be the greatest president, but this is what I would do.

    1)Pull out of Iraq as fast as possible. If Iraqis want a civil war, allow them. Honestly moral obligations must be thrown aside, true victory in Iraq cannot be obtained through force of arms. The sooner we accept this fact the better the outcome. This would save 25 million dollars a year.

    2)With Iraq "solved" we need to repair our stance in the world. The perception of us in the world has greatly dropped and this is something we need to change.
    a)Aid our allies. We want to keep the friends we still have, gestures of friendship our required.
    a1)Fill lake Eyre -10 Billion Dollars, pending on if Australia would accept. It really is a small price to pay and would drastically improve the landscape of Australia, and would perhaps create the last great migration of man.
    a2)Attempt at repairing relations with Europe. Especially Britain. They should be treated as brothers.
    a3)Spend 5 Billion on South America. Purely at aiding the economies. Similar to what the EU did for Ireland. Obviously much broader in scope, but any aid would help the issue.
    b)We need to stop making enemies. We need to stop going around and picking fights.
    c)We need to make peace with pointless enemies.
    c1)resume negotiations with Cuba, end the embargo, allow them to be communist if they desire. No real reason for hostilities anymore, subversion to communism simply will not happen. Obviously this means leaving Guantanamo Bay.
    c2)Try to negotiate with Iran. Im not siding with Iran, but our stance has been far from perfect.

    3)Take a hard stance on illegal immigration and up border security. Put 5 billion into making the border more protected. We need immigrants, we can accept immigrants from any nation, but illegal immigration is unfair to citizens and unfair to those who attempt citizenship by legal means. Deportations will occur.

    4)Revamp Social security and welfare. Attempt to make these more efficient and less costly. Obviously no easy task, but something that needs to be addressed.

    5)Raise taxes on the rich. Go back to 1980 tax levels. Not going extreme here, I just believe we have gone to far these days lowering their taxes.

    6)In year one I spent 20 billion of the war money as listed above. The 5 billion to Latin America will continue, but the money to Australia and to strengthen the border would not need the money again. The second year of my presidency would be a year of cuts. Its time to cut spending and work on lowering our debt. One way is not only to end Iraq, but also make military cuts across the board. Also try to cut away governmental bureaucracy. And also the added tax from the rich would be beneficial.

    7)Attempt to legalize Marijuana. Benefits are that it takes the money away from criminals and put it in the hands of legitimate business. Can be taxed. Allows the police to focus the drug war on more serious drugs.

    8)Work harder at nuclear disarmament. Keep nukes, and keep working on better ones, but we have too many. Far too many.

    Probably much more, but thats enough for now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl of Rochester View Post
    a1)Fill lake Eyre -10 Billion Dollars, pending on if Australia would accept. It really is a small price to pay and would drastically improve the landscape of Australia, and would perhaps create the last great migration of man.
    Ummm, no it wouldn't (have you seen where Lake Eyre is?) And if you read the article/s you linked to, they say the whole idea is infeasible and that the supposed "benefits of such an undertaking are vague".

    Sorry mate, but that idea is plain nutsville.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
    4. Destroy all the anti-gun legislation, within reason. Obviously, citizens shouldn't have access to sniper rifles and explosive ordinance.
    That's "within reason" how, exactly? That particular crazy idea of a "reasonable" limit on otherwise totally pointless anti-personnel weapons which are a threat to the common good is "obvious" how, exactly?

    Quote Originally Posted by haney591 View Post
    I'm voting for El Brujo!
    I'm hoping one of Thanatos' gun-toting loons will assassinate him. His agenda is crazed, impossible and in places insane.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Brujo View Post
    1. No citizen of Saudi Arabia, or anyone who at any time was a citizen of Saudi Arabia, may enter Iraq for any reason, unless he is a diplomat. All Saudi Arabians currently in Iraq must leave immediately or be deported.
    Yes, the Saudis are going to love that. Scratch one key ally. Well done.
    2. All movement of civilians across the Iraqi border ceases. Troops are shifted to the border for this purpose.
    Why not say you'll deploy battalions of magical elves for this purpose? It makes about as much practical sense.

    I will rely more heavily on the Iraqi military to protect the country's interior.
    Genius! I wonder why no-one has thought of that before? :hmmm:
    If the Iraqi government objects to all this, then too bad for them.
    Hooray for that "freedom" thingy.

    3. I encourage Israel to take a harder stance against Syria.
    The only way they could do this would be by invading or nuking the place. Way to stabilise the Middle East Mr President.

    4. Mass the majority of the aforementioned border troops and as much heavy equipment as can be spared on the Iraqi-Iranian border and dare Ali Khamenei to do something about it.
    These are on top of the millions of troops required to totally seal the borders? Where are all these millions of troops coming from? How are you paying for them?
    5. Inform the Kurds that Turkey is more important to me than they are, and that they should keep that in mind when the independent Kurdistan issue comes up.
    And thus turning the one bit of Iraq that is close to being less of a mess into an instant foreign policy disaster. And I thought Bush's presidency was a joke.

    6. Try to start trouble (secretly, obviously) between Israel and Syria, hopefully leading to war.
    Yes, they are always great ways of making everything better.

    7. If war happens, inform Iran that their options are to either mind their own business or be invaded.
    Invaded using what troops? You already have millions of (non-existent) troops sealing the borders of Iraq. Perhaps you'll use your fanatsy elf battalions?

    9. Deny that I had anything to do with the war and make it look like I want peace.
    Well that's about as feasible as the rest of this insane fantasy.

    Here's a better agenda for you:

    1. Stop smoking so much dope in the Oval Office and
    2. Apologise for wasting everyone's time and resign.

    That would work much better.
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