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    Default The War College: A Quotes Mod

    This is a simple mod. It is composed of just two text files in a zip. Unzip everything in the file to mtw2/data and then move the quotes.txt file to mtw2/data/text. And back up your files. I shouldnt have to say it, but I figure some fool will complain if I dont.

    I have always been unimpressed by CA's quotes for loading screens. Half of them dont even apply (ex. Martin Luther's thoughts on violence). So I made a little upgrade.

    Just for reference; the original game comes with 119 quotes.

    This mod contains 246 quotes. 74 are from Carl von Clausewitz, 51 from Frederick the Great, 35 from Máo Zédōng, 40 from Sun Tzu, 16 from Baron Antoine Henri de Jomini, 13 from Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli, and a few each from about 10 other notable people in history.

    The quotes are all references to war, the art of war, and the psychology of war. I have chosen quotes that are applicable to the time period, despite the time period of the author. They all offer some insight into warfare.

    Some of my favorite examples:

    "War is no pasttime, it is no mere joy in daring and winning, and no place for irresponsible enthusiasts."
    - Carl von Clausewitz

    "The enemy advances, we retreat. The enemy camps, we harass. The enemy tires, we attack. The enemy retreats, we pursue."
    - Máo Zédōng


    I tried to keep them short, a simple read for a simple loading screen. But I think it is a nice upgrade to the game and I appreciate all comments.

    Enjoy!
    Last edited by Ryoken; October 15, 2007 at 11:14 PM.

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    Default Re: The War College: A Quotes Mod

    cool, i always wanted to do something like this myself. nice work
    "And so the population was gradually led into the demoralizing temptations of arcades, baths, and sumptuous banquets. The unsuspecting Britons spoke of such novelties as 'civilization', when in fact they were only a feature of their enslavement."
    -The Roman Author Tacitus

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    Thanks!

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    I found a typo, guys. Sorry about that. It is in the line

    "Prudence bigs him strike while the iron is hot and use the advantage to prevent a second onslaught."

    It should say "Prudence bids"

    Let me know if anyone finds any other typos.

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    This is my 100th post !

    Very nice mod. I think others should add this into there combo mods ... if it is allowed ofc.

    Great find and addition for anyone's game.
    Last edited by Rat-tail; March 27, 2010 at 10:53 PM.
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    Simple, but awesome mod, thanks!



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    As a collector of such trivia, I will of course download and use, however slightly confused about not using Erasmus, right period, right kind of quotes eg.

    The Key to victory is to use cheep tactics, unfair units and attack in overwhelming numbers at your enemy's weakest point

    Every Plan has a fatal weak point. Once you find it, swarm over it with your minions and bash the hell out of it.

    To err is human, but to really foul things up you need a computer.
    Paul Ehrlich

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    This is great!

    But since we're medieval, how 'bout some Vegetius?

    I'm definitely using this sucker as soon as I'm done painting my house...

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    Because I dont have any books by Erasmus or Vegetius......

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    I am going to update this mod this weekend. Please let me know if you have any good quotes to add. I have to fix an error in the mod that is causing the quotes over #119 to not display.

    So bring your best quotes for inclusion:

    PARAMETERS: QUOTE MUST BE A MILITARY OR WAR ORIENTED QUOTE. I dont want to hear about the suffering of children, God, or any other pansy crap either. Strategy, tactics, and war. Keep it bloody, not wussy. That is all.

    Carry on SOLDIER!

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    A few for your list (sorry if you have them already)

    Lord Nelson: Never mind the manuvers, go straight at 'em
    Sun Tzu: The great general is not the one who wins all his battles, but the won who can subject his foes without bloodshed
    Sun Tzu: There are some roads not to follow; some troops not to strike; some cities not to assault; and some ground which should not be contested.
    Napoleon Bonaparte: Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake
    Polybius: A good general not only sees the way to victory, he also knows when victory is impossible
    Zhuge Liang: The wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win
    Bismark: A little caution outflanks a large cavalry
    Genghis Khan: In daylight watch with the vigilance of an old wolf, at night with the eyes of a raven, and in battle fall upon the enemy like a falcon.
    Turkish Proverb: A weapon is an enemy even to its owner
    Atatürk: I am not ordering you to attack, I am ordering you to die

    To err is human, but to really foul things up you need a computer.
    Paul Ehrlich

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    In case anyone is wondering, I didnt update like I said because I am working on some transition images to include in the next release. I have been collecting the screenshots for them during playtesting of my larger unreleased mod of which this is a component, so it may be another week or two before I update.

    If you want to keep giving me quote ideas I will include them. Thanks to Quark for his input so far on this.

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    Default Re: The War College: A Quotes Mod

    Hope you don't mind but I have updated your mod so that all 185 quotes display. I haven't changed or added any quotes. I like the new quotes and yes they are much better than the vanilla ones.

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    Thanks, bud!

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    I have updated the file in the first post to include 60 new quotes; 51 from Frederick the Great and nine others thanks to Quark's suggestions.

    I have also included the fixes so that all the quotes display.

    I found out that there are actually several quotes in the game that are skipped, the reference numbers skip over them in the original files so they never display. To see what I am talking about, look in the "lookup" files for quote 101. You will find 100 and 102, but 101 is skipped.

    I had just extended the vanilla file, so MY quote 101 was skipped along with about 5 others that I found. I fixed this in the new version.

    Thanks to Quark and Godspeed for their help. Enjoy!

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    Hey everyone, I really like this mod, so I tried to input it into my game! The loading screens work fine, but I can't get the new quotes to work! The game just keeps showing the old ones, even though I deleted them.. What should I do??

    Matz

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    You have to activate the file_first setting in your config file.

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    Default Re: The War College: A Quotes Mod

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryoken View Post
    You have to activate the file_first setting in your config file.
    Already have :/.

    I'm running the vanilla game version 1.03. I just overwrited the old files, but the new ones don't seem to appear!

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    I have no idea then. Maybe your computer hates you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryoken View Post
    I have no idea then. Maybe your computer hates you.

    Hahahaha, well it has been looking at me funny lately :hmmm:...

    But seriously, I couldnt get it to work in vanilla, but on the retrofit mod it works just fine, making me a happy camper!

    These quotes kick derriere .

    Thanks anyway Ryoken!

    Matz

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