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    Default Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    I thought it would be intresting to see some of our former beliefs, here's my list:

    Fascist
    Communist
    Democratic Socialist
    Fundamentalist (Conservative Christain)

    What did you use to have as an Ideology?

    EDIT: Italian Fascism, not Nazism, I have never been a Racist.
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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    I'll add a poll
    "I have need to be all on fire, for I have mountains of ice about me to melt." -William Lloyd Garrison

    "The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end." -Leon Trotsky

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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Italian Fascism, not Nazism, I have never been a Racist.
    National Socialists weren't racist.
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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    The National Socialist German Workers Party was racist, but National Socialism isn't a fundamentally racist ideology.

    Anyways, I've had my same political beliefs pretty much my entire life.

    Also, how did you go from Fascist (bad) to Communist (even worse). That is quite a jump.
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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sétanta View Post
    The National Socialist German Workers Party was racist, but National Socialism isn't a fundamentally racist ideology.

    Anyways, I've had my same political beliefs pretty much my entire life.

    Also, how did you go from Fascist (bad) to Communist (even worse). That is quite a jump.
    It actually went: Moderate, Communist, Fascist, Socialist, Libertarian, and now Objectivist.
    "I have need to be all on fire, for I have mountains of ice about me to melt." -William Lloyd Garrison

    "The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end." -Leon Trotsky

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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sétanta View Post
    Also, how did you go from Fascist (bad) to Communist (even worse). That is quite a jump.
    I'm perplexed as to how fascism can be 'better' than communism. Aren't they both equally as bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    I'm perplexed as to how fascism can be 'better' than communism. Aren't they both equally as bad?
    They are both extremely bad, but not equally evil.

    Pacifism
    Christian Radicalism
    You joined the Army because.....?
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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sétanta View Post
    They are both extremely bad, but not equally evil.
    Elaborate on your proof of this "bad" or "evil"

    http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/cl...manifesto.html

    That manifesto seems pretty noble to me. Hard to find what the religious people would call "evil"
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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eksadiss View Post
    Elaborate on your proof of this "bad" or "evil"

    http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/cl...manifesto.html

    That manifesto seems pretty noble to me. Hard to find what the religious people would call "evil"
    It's evil because it condones the stealing of other people's property through deception and force.

    First they say you can't own property. If you defend what's rightfully yours, they take it violently.
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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sétanta View Post
    They are both extremely bad, but not equally evil.
    So, fascism is less evil because?

    You joined the Army because.....?
    This is the "What did you use to believe in" thread. It's quite obvious that he changed from pacafism before joining the military.
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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    I used to believe in Socialism and read the books about Ernesto Che Guevara when I was like 15 lol. then the rebellion stage has ended and I became somebody I despised back then - another brick in the wall .

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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    I used to be a communist.





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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    I've never been so pretentious as to have a teenage ideology.

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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    I've never been so pretentious as to have a teenage ideology.
    QFT

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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    Like I said in the other thread:

    Micheal Savage-ite
    Liberal-Moderate

    And now. I think where I'm at is more concrete than the other two idealogies, it feels like I'm standing on something.
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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    Socialism, Father Christmas, the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny. Then I grew up.

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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    Pacifism
    Christian Radicalism
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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    My views have not changed that much. I first started getting interested in politics when I was around 10. I started reading newspapers when I was at the school library. I didn't know what to call myself then, I just knew which parties were "bad" and which "good". I was influenced by my mother, who classifies herself as a liberal-conservative I started liking the "Fatherland Union" most, which is a center-right wing party. When I was 12, I started calling myself a nationalist. I liked my country, I've always been a bit patriotic. I was a bit radical certainly, but I've changed. I don't know if nationalism is the best word to describe me now, these days nationalists are instantly connected with Nazis and racists, I'm neither. I don't believe my country is superior or can do no wrong. I'm a member( Although not very active) of the National Democrats. It's a part of the Estonian Nationalist Movement, it fits me best I think but thats exactly what I am, a nationalist that supports democracy. I'm actually very happy with the current Estonia, and wouldn't change much. For me, nationalism is doing what is best for ones country, and believing every nation has a right to rule itself. So I've pretty much always been somewhere in the center-right, although nationalist.

    I'm 14 though, a teenager. So perhaps in a few years, I'll be a totally different person.

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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    You certainly will, and that's by no means a bad thing. In our socities for some reason changing one's mind is looked down upon - and this is rediculous. I get furious when I see somebody contemptuously calling somebody a flip-flopper. I think the humility to accept one is wrong and the wisdom to change his beliefs in liue of that is worthy of the highest praise.

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    Default Re: Ideology: What did you use to believe?

    Were the Russian population happier under communism or democracy?

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