Crash when starting Campaign

[Rabain]

I've hit a wall.

Everything worked okay and then I made further changes to the EDU and the modelsdb file.

Now the game crashes to desktop after I select my faction and start the campaign.

I have in the cfg file to show * error only in the log however there are no errors.

If I put * trace in the cfg then the log file is 13mb and has thousands of lines.

Is there some kind of general rule like:

CTD's when starting the game are desc strat
CTD's when loading a campaign are possibly modelsdb, campaign script etc

Any idea's of where I can start looking? I've used the modelsdb checker and no errors are reported from that so..EDU? but what do I look at if the log isn't pointing me at anything in that?

Lots of questions...thanks guys! (and gals if there are any watching).

[Rabain]

Okay I've had a play around and now the only error I get is this:

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21:18:14.140 [system.rpt] [always] CPU: SSE2
21:18:14.140 [system.rpt] [always] ==== system log start, build date: Aug 3 2007 version bld-medieval2-kingdoms-104 (45562) ===
21:18:14.156 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_0.pack
21:18:14.156 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_1.pack
21:18:14.156 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_2.pack
21:18:14.156 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_3.pack
21:18:14.156 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_4.pack
21:18:14.156 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/localized.pack
21:18:19.078 [game.script] [error] Condition parsing error in mods/PDER_Kingdoms_v0.1a/data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 13084, column 49
trigger not found
21:18:38.265 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

The only thing is I haven't touched export_descr_character_traits.txt and that part is as follows:

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Trigger ItsWinterNow
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition Trait SummerWinterCampaign = 1
and not I_IsTriggerTrue ItsSummerNow

Affects SummerWinterCampaign 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger ItsSummerNow
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition Trait SummerWinterCampaign = 2
and not I_IsTriggerTrue ItsWinterNow

Affects SummerWinterCampaign -1 Chance 100

The line and column mentioned in the error is the end of the one in Bold.

I have a sneaking suspicion this is something to do with a character of mine from some other file...but I'm just guessing.

Anyone?

[Socal_infidel]

That particular error won't crash the game. It's part of Blood, Broads and Bastards.

What changes did you make when you edited the EDU and modeldb?

And if you suspect it's related to a character, did you double-check the names files?

[Rabain]

In the modeldb I've added all the entries from the Britannia modeldb for Hobiguir, Ridire, Mounted Calivermen, Muire, Cliathairi, Deisi Javelinmen and Calivermen.

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8 hobiguir 1 4 55 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/hobiguir_lod0.mesh 121 55 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/hobiguir_lod1.mesh 900 55 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/hobiguir_lod2.mesh 2500 55 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/hobiguir_lod3.mesh 6400 3 5 slave 78 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/textures/EN_Peasant_Padded_rebels.texture 78 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/textures/EN_Peasant_Padded_normal.texture 38 unit_sprites/slave_Hobiguir_sprite.spr 4 merc 77 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/textures/EN_Peasant_Padded_mercs.texture 78 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/textures/EN_Peasant_Padded_normal.texture 37 unit_sprites/merc_Hobiguir_sprite.spr 7 ireland 79 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/textures/EN_Peasant_Padded_ireland.texture 78 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/textures/EN_Peasant_Padded_normal.texture 40 unit_sprites/ireland_Hobiguir_sprite.spr 3 5 slave 66 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_slave_diff.texture 66 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_slave_norm.texture 0 4 merc 65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_merc_diff.texture 65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_merc_norm.texture 0 7 ireland 68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_ireland_diff.texture 68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_ireland_norm.texture 0 1 5 Horse 13 MTW2_HR_Spear 12 MTW2_HR_Mace 2 21 MTW2_HR_spear_Primary 14 fs_test_shield 2 17 MTW2_Mace_Primary 14 fs_test_shield 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

12 hobiguir_ug1 1 4 56 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/hobiguir_ug1_lod0.mesh 121 56 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/hobiguir_ug1_lod1.mesh 900 56 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/hobiguir_ug1_lod2.mesh 2500 56 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/hobiguir_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400 3 5 slave 72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_rebels.texture 72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_normal.texture 42 unit_sprites/slave_Hobiguir_ug1_sprite.spr 4 merc 71 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_mercs.texture 72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_normal.texture 41 unit_sprites/merc_Hobiguir_ug1_sprite.spr 7 ireland 73 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_ireland.texture 72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_normal.texture 44 unit_sprites/ireland_Hobiguir_ug1_sprite.spr 3 5 slave 66 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_slave_diff.texture 66 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_slave_norm.texture 0 4 merc 65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_merc_diff.texture 65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_merc_norm.texture 0 7 ireland 68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_ireland_diff.texture 68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_ireland_norm.texture 0 1 5 Horse 13 MTW2_HR_Spear 12 MTW2_HR_Mace 2 21 MTW2_HR_spear_Primary 14 fs_test_shield 2 17 MTW2_Mace_Primary 14 fs_test_shield 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

6 ridire 1 4 50 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/ridire_lod0.mesh 121 50 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/ridire_lod1.mesh 900 50 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/ridire_lod2.mesh 2500 50 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/ridire_lod3.mesh 6400 1 7 ireland 73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_ireland.texture 72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_normal.texture 38 unit_sprites/ireland_Ridire_sprite.spr 1 7 ireland 60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_ireland_diff.texture 60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_ireland_norm.texture 0 1 5 Horse 13 MTW2_HR_Lance 12 MTW2_HR_Mace 2 21 MTW2_HR_Lance_Primary 14 fs_test_shield 2 17 MTW2_Mace_Primary 14 fs_test_shield 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

10 ridire_ug1 1 3 55 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/ridire_ug1_lod0.mesh 121 55 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/ridire_ug1_lod1.mesh 1225 55 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/ridire_ug1_lod2.mesh 6400 1 7 ireland 74 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_ireland.texture 73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 42 unit_sprites/ireland_Ridire_ug1_sprite.spr 1 7 ireland 60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_ireland_diff.texture 60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_ireland_norm.texture 0 1 5 Horse 13 MTW2_HR_Lance 12 MTW2_HR_Mace 2 21 MTW2_HR_Lance_Primary 14 fs_test_shield 2 17 MTW2_Mace_Primary 14 fs_test_shield 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

18 mounted_calivermen 1 4 58 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/mounted_calivermen_lod0.mesh 121 58 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/mounted_calivermen_lod1.mesh 900 58 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/mounted_calivermen_lod2.mesh 2500 58 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/mounted_calivermen_lod3.mesh 6400 1 7 ireland 65 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/textures/calivermen_ireland.texture 64 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/textures/calivermen_normal.texture 50 unit_sprites/ireland_Mounted_Calivermen_sprite.spr 1 7 ireland 69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_ireland_diff.texture 69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_ireland_norm.texture 0 1 5 Horse 16 MTW2_HR_Arquebus 18 MTW2_HR_Non_Shield 1 21 MTW2_Arquebus_Primary 1 18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

22 mounted_calivermen_ug1 1 4 62 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/mounted_calivermen_ug1_lod0.mesh 121 62 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/mounted_calivermen_ug1_lod1.mesh 900 62 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/mounted_calivermen_ug1_lod2.mesh 2500 62 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/mounted_calivermen_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400 1 7 ireland 71 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/textures/calivermen_heavy_ireland.texture 70 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/textures/calivermen_heavy_normal.texture 54 unit_sprites/ireland_Mounted_Calivermen_ug1_sprite.spr 1 7 ireland 69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_ireland_diff.texture 69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_ireland_norm.texture 0 1 5 Horse 16 MTW2_HR_Arquebus 18 MTW2_HR_Non_Shield 1 21 MTW2_Arquebus_Primary 1 18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

5 muire 1 3 50 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/muire_lod0.mesh 121 50 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/muire_lod1.mesh 1225 50 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/muire_lod2.mesh 6400 1 7 ireland 74 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_ireland.texture 73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 37 unit_sprites/ireland_Muire_sprite.spr 1 7 ireland 60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_ireland_diff.texture 60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_ireland_norm.texture 0 1 4 None 19 MTW2_Slow_Swordsman 0 2 18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 14 fs_test_shield 0 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

9 muire_ug1 1 3 54 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/muire_ug1_lod0.mesh 121 54 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/muire_ug1_lod1.mesh 1225 54 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/muire_ug1_lod2.mesh 6400 1 7 ireland 74 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_ireland.texture 73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 41 unit_sprites/ireland_Muire_ug1_sprite.spr 1 7 ireland 60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_ireland_diff.texture 60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_ireland_norm.texture 0 1 4 None 19 MTW2_Slow_Swordsman 0 2 18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 14 fs_test_shield 0 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

10 cliathairi 1 4 57 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/cliathairi_lod0.mesh 121 57 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/cliathairi_lod1.mesh 900 57 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/cliathairi_lod2.mesh 2500 57 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/cliathairi_lod3.mesh 6400 1 7 ireland 79 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/textures/EN_Peasant_Padded_ireland.texture 78 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/textures/EN_Peasant_Padded_normal.texture 42 unit_sprites/ireland_Cliathairi_sprite.spr 1 7 ireland 58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Kite_ireland_diff.texture 58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Kite_ireland_norm.texture 0 1 4 None 10 MTW2_Spear 0 2 18 MTW2_Spear_primary 14 fs_test_shield 0 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

14 cliathairi_ug1 1 4 61 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/cliathairi_ug1_lod0.mesh 121 61 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/cliathairi_ug1_lod1.mesh 900 61 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/cliathairi_ug1_lod2.mesh 2500 61 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/cliathairi_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400 1 7 ireland 79 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/textures/EN_Peasant_Padded_ireland.texture 78 unit_models/_Units/EN_Peasant_Padded/textures/EN_Peasant_Padded_normal.texture 46 unit_sprites/ireland_Cliathairi_ug1_sprite.spr 1 7 ireland 58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Kite_ireland_diff.texture 58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Kite_ireland_norm.texture 0 1 4 None 10 MTW2_Spear 0 2 18 MTW2_Spear_primary 14 fs_test_shield 0 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

14 cliathairi_ug2 1 4 58 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/cliathairi_ug2_lod0.mesh 121 58 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/cliathairi_ug2_lod1.mesh 900 58 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/cliathairi_ug2_lod2.mesh 2500 58 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/cliathairi_ug2_lod3.mesh 6400 1 7 ireland 73 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_ireland.texture 72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_normal.texture 46 unit_sprites/ireland_Cliathairi_ug2_sprite.spr 1 7 ireland 58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Kite_ireland_diff.texture 58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Kite_ireland_norm.texture 0 1 4 None 10 MTW2_Spear 0 2 18 MTW2_Spear_primary 14 fs_test_shield 0 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

16 deisi_javelinmen 1 4 59 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/deisi_javelinmen_lod0.mesh 121 59 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/deisi_javelinmen_lod1.mesh 900 59 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/deisi_javelinmen_lod2.mesh 2500 59 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/deisi_javelinmen_lod3.mesh 6400 1 7 ireland 71 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/textures/en_highlander_ireland.texture 70 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/textures/en_highlander_normal.texture 48 unit_sprites/ireland_Deisi_Javelinmen_sprite.spr 1 7 ireland 68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_ireland_diff.texture 68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_ireland_norm.texture 0 1 4 None 17 MTW2_Fast_Javelin 16 MTW2_Fast_2H_Axe 1 20 MTW2_Javelin_primary 1 19 MTW2_2H_Axe_primary 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

20 deisi_javelinmen_ug1 1 4 63 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/deisi_javelinmen_ug1_lod0.mesh 121 63 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/deisi_javelinmen_ug1_lod1.mesh 900 63 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/deisi_javelinmen_ug1_lod2.mesh 2500 63 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/deisi_javelinmen_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400 1 7 ireland 71 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/textures/en_highlander_ireland.texture 70 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/textures/en_highlander_normal.texture 52 unit_sprites/ireland_Deisi_Javelinmen_ug1_sprite.spr 1 7 ireland 68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_ireland_diff.texture 68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_ireland_norm.texture 0 1 4 None 17 MTW2_Fast_Javelin 16 MTW2_Fast_2H_Axe 1 20 MTW2_Javelin_primary 1 19 MTW2_2H_Axe_primary 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

10 calivermen 1 4 50 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/calivermen_lod0.mesh 121 50 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/calivermen_lod1.mesh 900 50 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/calivermen_lod2.mesh 2500 50 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/calivermen_lod3.mesh 6400 2 4 merc 63 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/textures/calivermen_mercs.texture 64 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/textures/calivermen_normal.texture 39 unit_sprites/merc_Calivermen_sprite.spr 7 ireland 65 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/textures/calivermen_ireland.texture 64 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/textures/calivermen_normal.texture 42 unit_sprites/ireland_Calivermen_sprite.spr 2 4 merc 66 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_merc_diff.texture 66 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_merc_norm.texture 0 7 ireland 69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_ireland_diff.texture 69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_ireland_norm.texture 0 1 4 None 18 MTW2_Fast_Arquebus 20 MTW2_Non_Shield_Fast 1 21 MTW2_Arquebus_Primary 1 18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
14 calivermen_ug1 1 4 54 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/calivermen_ug1_lod0.mesh 121 54 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/calivermen_ug1_lod1.mesh 900 54 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/calivermen_ug1_lod2.mesh 2500 54 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/calivermen_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400 2 4 merc 69 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/textures/calivermen_heavy_mercs.texture 70 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/textures/calivermen_heavy_normal.texture 43 unit_sprites/merc_Calivermen_ug1_sprite.spr 7 ireland 71 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/textures/calivermen_heavy_ireland.texture 70 unit_models/_Units/calivermen/textures/calivermen_heavy_normal.texture 46 unit_sprites/ireland_Calivermen_ug1_sprite.spr 2 4 merc 66 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_merc_diff.texture 66 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_merc_norm.texture 0 7 ireland 69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_ireland_diff.texture 69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_ireland_norm.texture 0 1 4 None 18 MTW2_Fast_Arquebus 20 MTW2_Non_Shield_Fast 1 21 MTW2_Arquebus_Primary 1 18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

I've incremented the total at the top of the file by 15.

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22 serialization::archive 3 0 0 0 0 823 0 0

In the EDU I've added all the entries for these.

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type Hobiguir
dictionary Hobiguir ; Hobiguir
category cavalry
class light
voice_type Light
banner faction main_cavalry
banner holy crusade_cavalry
soldier Hobiguir, 24, 0, 1
mount pony
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, can_formed_charge
formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 3, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 7, 5, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 1
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 9, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, slashing, axe, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr ap
stat_pri_armour 2, 5, 5, leather
;stat_armour_ex 2, 3, 0, 0, 5, 5, 5, leather
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 5
stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 2
stat_mental 9, disciplined, trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 660, 130, 80, 185, 660, 4, 190
armour_ug_levels 1, 2
armour_ug_models Hobiguir, Hobiguir_ug1
ownership ireland, slave
era 0 ireland
era 1 ireland
era 2 ireland
;unit_info 7, 0, 12


type Ridire
dictionary Ridire ; Ridire
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_cavalry
banner holy crusade_cavalry
soldier Ridire, 24, 0, 1
mount heavy horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, can_formed_charge
formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 3, square, wedge
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 6, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 1
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 7, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr ap
stat_pri_armour 5, 3, 6, metal
;stat_armour_ex 5, 6, 0, 0, 3, 6, 6, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 7
stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 2
stat_mental 5, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 580, 185, 65, 155, 580, 4, 170
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models Ridire, Ridire_ug1
ownership ireland
era 0 ireland
era 1 ireland
era 2 ireland
;unit_info 6, 0, 14



type Mounted Calivermen
dictionary Mounted_Calivermen ; Mounted Calivermen
category cavalry
class missile
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_missile
banner holy crusade_cavalry
soldier Mounted_Calivermen, 24, 0, 1
mount heavy horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, can_formed_charge, gunpowder_unit, start_not_skirmishing
formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 16, 3, arquebus_bullet, 100, 15, missile, missile_gunpowder, piercing, none, musket_shot_set, 25, 1
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr ap
stat_sec 9, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 4, 5, 0, metal
;stat_armour_ex 4, 6, 0, 0, 5, 0, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 6
stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 2
stat_mental 9, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 960, 130, 80, 185, 960, 4, 280
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models Mounted_Calivermen, Mounted_Calivermen_ug1
ownership ireland
era 2 ireland
;unit_info 9, 16, 9


type Muire
dictionary Muire ; Muire
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier Muire, 24, 0, 1.2
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, very_hardy, can_withdraw, frighten_foot
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health 2, 0
stat_pri 14, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 6, 5, 8, metal
;stat_armour_ex 6, 7, 0, 0, 5, 8, 8, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 8
stat_ground 1, -2, 3, 4
stat_mental 11, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 780, 60, 75, 175, 780, 3, 230
armour_ug_levels 4, 5
armour_ug_models Muire, Muire_ug1
ownership ireland
era 1 ireland
era 2 ireland
;unit_info 14, 0, 38


type Cliathairi
dictionary Cliathairi ; Cliathairi
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_spear
banner holy crusade
soldier Cliathairi, 60, 0, 1.5
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square, schiltrom
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 9, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 0.6
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr spear, spear_bonus_8
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 0, 5, 8, flesh
;stat_armour_ex 0, 2, 3, 0, 5, 8, 8, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 4
stat_ground 1, -2, 3, 4
stat_mental 5, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 400, 125, 65, 150, 400, 4, 120
armour_ug_levels 0, 1, 2
armour_ug_models Cliathairi, Cliathairi_ug1, Cliathairi_ug2
ownership ireland
era 0 ireland
era 1 ireland
era 2 ireland
;unit_info 9, 0, 13


type Deisi Javelinmen
dictionary Deisi_Javelinmen ; Deisi Javelinmen
category infantry
class light
voice_type Light
banner faction main_missile
banner holy crusade
soldier Deisi_Javelinmen, 60, 0, 1
mount_effect elephant +6
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit, cannot_skirmish
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 9, 3, javelin, 55, 8, thrown, missile_mechanical, piercing, spear, 25, 1
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr ap, thrown
stat_sec 11, 6, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 25, 1.33
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 0, 8, 0, flesh
;stat_armour_ex 0, 2, 0, 0, 8, 0, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 4
stat_ground 1, -2, 3, 4
stat_mental 9, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 530, 185, 80, 185, 530, 4, 150
armour_ug_levels 0, 1
armour_ug_models Deisi_Javelinmen, Deisi_Javelinmen_ug1
ownership ireland
era 0 ireland
;unit_info 11, 9, 8


type Calivermen
dictionary Calivermen ; Calivermen
category infantry
class missile
voice_type Light
banner faction main_missile
banner holy crusade
soldier Calivermen, 48, 0, 0.8
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, gunpowder_unit
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 3, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 14, 2, arquebus_bullet, 130, 15, missile, missile_gunpowder, piercing, none, musket_shot_set, 25, 1
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr ap
stat_sec 7, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 3, 2, 0, metal
;stat_armour_ex 3, 4, 0, 0, 2, 0, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 6
stat_ground 1, -2, 3, 4
stat_mental 5, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 580, 125, 50, 115, 580, 4, 170
armour_ug_levels 2, 3
armour_ug_models Calivermen, Calivermen_ug1
ownership ireland
era 2 ireland
;unit_info 7, 14, 5

I've checked the names file and all my named characters in desc_strat are in the names file and expanded.txt.

I tell you...modding is so rewarding when it goes right but so frustrating when it goes wrong!

[Socal_infidel]

Hmmm...did you make sure the family tree is set up properly?

[Rabain]

Funny you should ask that: I've noticed with Ireland that no matter what I do I can't get the Factionheir to appear.

The king and his wife do but no heir. Before I made the changes to the EDU and modelsdb I could start the game with the setup I had even though the heir wasn't there!

Other than desc_strat the only place i've seen family tree mentioned is in descr_sm_factions and it's a yes in there for Has family tree.

Once I have time I'll try to work through the files again, there's obviously something I'm missing.

Thanks for your help!

[Hans Kloss]

Are you are using unformatted Battle_Model file?

[Rabain]

I'm using the PDERKingdoms battle model file which i believe is formatted..though my entries are not.

Does this make a difference?

I ask because I thought it might be the models file so what I did was install PDER fresh and only replace the models file with my version. The game started succesfully with no errors or crashes so I assume my file is okay.

[Rabain]

I can't believe how stupid I've been, it turned out to be the family tree after all!

I had copied over the CNP Irish names to descr_names and the spelling had changed slightly. So while the heirs name was in names.txt it wasn't in descr_names.

Also I didn't really understand the family tree layout in descr_strat which I do now...

relative faction leader, wife, son1, daughter, end
relative Son1, sonsWife, sonsSon, sonsDaughter, end

Characters included in the relative list who are female and/or dead should be included in the character list that comes above the relative section. For example if the only two generals were to be FactionLeader and Son1 then all others should be listed in the character list with appropriate details (dead, age etc).

Now back to the AoR!