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    Default DARTH Battle AI with The Sicilian Vespers?

    Would anyone be interested in helping me integrate the newest darth mod (1.4D) with Sicilian Vespers?
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    Default Re: DARTH and the Vespers

    Here you go:

    Darth 1.4D Battle AI for SV 2.5

    To install:

    Copy these files into the SicilianVespers\data folder:

    battle_config.xml
    config_ai_battle.xml
    descr_battle_movement_modifiers.txt
    descr_formations.txt
    descr_formations_ai.txt
    descr_pathfinding.txt
    descr_pathfinding.db

    To uninstall, simply delete the files.


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    Default Re: DARTH and the Vespers

    Oh yes, we are interested how that plays out ... please report here in this thread about the outcome

    (Have changed slightly the topic title).
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    Default Re: DARTH and the Vespers

    Quote Originally Posted by SicilianVespers View Post
    Here you go:

    Darth 1.4D Battle AI for SV 2.5

    To install:

    Copy these files into the SicilianVespers\data folder:

    battle_config.xml
    config_ai_battle.xml
    descr_battle_movement_modifiers.txt
    descr_formations.txt
    descr_formations_ai.txt
    descr_pathfinding.txt
    descr_pathfinding.db

    To uninstall, simply delete the files.
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    Wow, I'd like to see how this plays out too... Maybe I'll test this as well.
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    Default Re: DARTH Battle AI with The Sicilian Vespers?

    Couple quick things I noticed are:
    - Calvary do too well in melee with spear troops ( with darth maybe the 2 hitpoint is not needed.)
    -infantry vs infantry combat very slow in terms of casualties.
    - gunpowder units raise rifles but do not fire when underfire
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    Default Re: DARTH Battle AI with The Sicilian Vespers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sosobra View Post
    Couple quick things I noticed are:
    - Calvary do too well in melee with spear troops ( with darth maybe the 2 hitpoint is not needed.)
    -infantry vs infantry combat very slow in terms of casualties.
    - gunpowder units raise rifles but do not fire when underfire
    To show us a comparison, please make battles without Darth Battle AI files, means with the pure SV, with certain troops, and after that make the same battles with Darth' files.

    Then report about the battle outcome, for each case, with a list of the army compositions, and also tell about the chosen battle difficulty, the chosen unit seize, and the chosen terrain (or custom map name).

    This would help to get an idea.

    P.S. I'll look after the gun units, as this is new that they have a problem in SV.
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    Default Re: DARTH Battle AI with The Sicilian Vespers?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaVinci View Post
    To show us a comparison, please make battles without Darth Battle AI files, means with the pure SV, with certain troops, and after that make the same battles with Darth' files.

    Then report about the battle outcome, for each case, with a list of the army compositions, and also tell about the chosen battle difficulty, the chosen unit seize, and the chosen terrain (or custom map name).

    This would help to get an idea.

    P.S. I'll look after the gun units, as this is new that they have a problem in SV.
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    Default Re: DARTH Battle AI with The Sicilian Vespers?

    Here is some initial tests

    With Darth Files
    Very Hard setting
    large unit settings

    4 armored Sergents (446) vs 4 Menvolti (360)
    301 death 9 dead

    average time between deaths 10-14 secs

    4 Lansckents (446) vs 4 Menvolti (360)
    222 dead 240 dead
    average death time 6 secs first half of battle , 18 secs second half
    winner

    4 Lancers (148) vs 4 Lanschkents (446)
    initial deaths due to calvary charge 20-24 (frontal)
    33 deaths 280 deaths
    winner

    4 Heavy Pike militia(360) vs 4 Mailed Knights(120)
    10-12 killed initial charge(frontal)
    280 dead 74 dead

    4 Feudal Knights(120) vs 4 armored sergeants(446)
    10 killed in initial charge (frontal)
    6 dead 225 dead (rest where captured)


    4 Zwei Hander (268) vs 4 Kontari (360)
    66 dead 257 dead
    average time between deaths 4 secs ,
    after initial charge Kontari dead very little damage to Zwei Hander

    This where all done with the Darth files added , will conduct same battles with out files next.


    The following are done without Darth files ie vanilla SV

    overall the battles where much quicker and the AI was very straight forward as opposed to the darth tests where
    the AI attempted to flank or take advantage of weak spots.
    Same settings as above

    Menavlatoi Vs Armored Sergent
    21 dead 282 dead
    winner

    Landskect vs Menavlatoi

    321 dead 214 dead
    winner

    Lancers vs Landskect
    46 dead 347 dead
    initial calvary charge killed 70- 80

    Heavy pike militia vs Mailed knights
    270 dead 8 dead
    initial charge kill 60-70 of pike units and broke all 4 units

    Feudal Knights vs Armored Sergent
    initial charge killed 80-90 and broke Sergent units
    6 dead 194 killed rest captured
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    Default Re: DARTH Battle AI with The Sicilian Vespers?

    Thanks for doing these tests.

    The following are done without Darth files ie vanilla SV

    overall the battles where much quicker and the AI was very straight forward as opposed to the darth tests where
    the AI attempted to flank or take advantage of weak spots.
    This is the most valuable statement.

    The AI deployment and AI behaviour is obviously, what we can improve with the Darth files from above (i haven't expected something else).

    However, one can check the thing still better out, if you battle with whole stacks on both sides, and then naturally a mixed army composition.

    Additional, it would need siege test battles, and as well bridge battles.
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