Is the musket fire realistic in the game??

**jo the greek** · September 20, 2007, 02:08 AM

I have played shogun and find that the musket fire in myw 2 is little unrealistic i do not see the bullets that are missing their target hiting units that follow . also didnt muskets had a pole tha were mounted on it?

**Haqiq** · September 20, 2007, 06:48 AM

Yep the musket if a little bit unrealistic. But nobody can even see the bullet as it is too fast.

**Saibot** · September 20, 2007, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Haqiq

Yep the musket if a little bit unrealistic. But nobody can even see the bullet as it is too fast.

You can see the bullet if you pause the game and press shift + the speed up button. Instead of the normal speed of 1.0, 2.0 or 6.0 you can go from 0.1 till 6.0. (Matrix M2TW ftw!

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**Andy B** · September 20, 2007, 10:57 AM

you can follow the bullets / arrows / artillety. jsut press delete when the units selected, i love it especially with muskets! ---- Ping -- ping lol

//Andy B

**Mr Longbowman** · September 20, 2007, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Andy B

you can follow the bullets / arrows / artillety. jsut press delete when the units selected, i love it especially with muskets! ---- Ping -- ping lol

//Andy B

I didint know that, i thought it was deleted after MTW. I really missed that feature

+ rep

**Andy B** · September 20, 2007, 11:38 AM

cheers for the rep mate, i love it, like i said especially Arqebusiers - dno bout spellin lol but i'd say the mortar follows are the best! shoot way up in the air and you get a really good birdseye view if your quick enough

also when you just press delete say on cavaly the screen follows smoothly, great for charge's movies / shots

lil off topic question, when does the new world event happen? / year
// Andy B

**Ged** · September 20, 2007, 07:00 AM

Meh, nothing is entirely realistic.

**Cybugger** · September 20, 2007, 02:54 PM

They are also a bit fast loading imo, because when it was raining, medieval gunpowder didn't always work. And also it doesn't take into account the chance of a misfire, i.e. when the shooter gets spread by molten gunpowder.

**Nevins** · September 20, 2007, 05:47 PM

Its in 1400 and remember that only carracks can cross the atlantic (
theyre made in the docks from a huge city.)

**Andy B** · September 20, 2007, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by ZorboZ

Around 1400 or a bit later.
nice.

cheers mate i just forgot thats all.

Originally Posted by Nevins

Its in 1400 and remember that only carracks can cross the atlantic (
theyre made in the docks from a huge city.)

cheers I've already been and owned the aztecs before when i was running SS4 - Great mod, not really my cup of tea

I'm running DarthMod1.4D - its really good. the difference in the battle moves, physics, musket fire / smoke is totally realistic compared to SS, + now you can see / hear them loading the rifles now -properly and they continuesly shoot. thats only a couple of class things i could go on and on lol,

Originally Posted by Cybugger

And also it doesn't take into account the chance of a misfire, i.e. when the shooter gets spread by molten gunpowder.

ouch try and imagine that lol

// Andy B

**Cybugger** · September 21, 2007, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Andy B

ouch try and imagine that lol

It happened apparently quite often. The gunpowder would ignite, but not shoot out the bullet. The expanding gas had to come out somehow, so it would generally head in the direction of the gun-holder. That's why when something doesn't work, it "back-fires".

That was my cultural moment, normal service shall resume tomorrow.

**Andy B** · September 21, 2007, 10:19 AM

sweet, didnt know that. nice one mate

// Andy B

**Bluice** · September 20, 2007, 07:49 PM

You can see the bullet if you pause the game and press shift + the speed up button. Instead of the normal speed of 1.0, 2.0 or 6.0 you can go from 0.1 till 6.0.

Wow I didn't know you could break down the game speed.

**Kalos** · September 20, 2007, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by bluice

Wow I didn't know you could break down the game speed.

Neither did I, but I've always been able to see them in normal speed anyway. They just look like rocks.

**Axeman** · September 20, 2007, 09:46 PM

They fire a bit fast and reform unesscarily constantly.

To fix the latter of the problems go into

export_descr_unit folder in your m2tw directory under data

for every gun unit remove the trati

"fire_by_rank" therefore they will not reform and still fire MUCH better

**Arcani 4 Ever** · September 29, 2007, 07:25 PM

Cool man... also i like to slow down the speed so i can see the stabbing and hitting of the swords, specially with the two-handed bastards of the HRE.

**Mr Longbowman** · September 30, 2007, 06:51 AM

You got that right Arcani

**Metellus** · October 01, 2007, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by Cybugger

It happened apparently quite often. The gunpowder would ignite, but not shoot out the bullet. The expanding gas had to come out somehow, so it would generally head in the direction of the gun-holder. That's why when something doesn't work, it "back-fires".

That's also where "hang fire" comes from, when the powder doesn't ignite at the proper time and goes off at an unexpected moment.