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    As the election campaign for the lower house of the Russian Parliament, the State Duma, gets under way, political parties are finding different ways to get publicity. The Liberal Democratic Party is planning to put Andrey Lugovoy, the man wanted in the UK over the death of Aleksandr Litvinenko, on their list of candidates.
    Mr Lugovoy, who receives lots of media attention both in Russia and worldwide, says he originally had no political ambitions, but changed his mind after becoming the centre of a diplomatic row between London and Moscow.

    “Firstly, I would like to confirm the words of the Liberal Democrat Party leader, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, who said I will take part in the election campaign as number two,” Andrey Lugovoy stated before going on to say: “I have been involved in politics over the past three months against my wishes. I was a businessman, but no longer, thanks to the disgusting policy of British prosecutors which led to this political hysteria. With the situation being highly politicised by British opponents, I find myself in the midst of a political wave of interest in me.”

    If Mr Lugovoy is elected to Parliament, he would automatically become immune to prosecution.

    Lib Dems’ ‘big gamble’

    Russia's Liberal Democrats leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky had earlier said that Andrey Lugovoy is to be the party’s number two during December's parliamentary elections: “I head the party election list. Andrey Lugovoy will be number two. He is a victim. He came under attack from British intelligence,” Mr Zhirinovsky announced.

    The Liberal Democratic Party is in third place for the elections according to a recent poll. Yet it still doesn’t have enough support to pass the new 7% barrier set to enter the State Duma.

    Posing as a pro-reform centrist force, the Liberal Democrats are known for making controversial statements to draw public attention. They are also taking an anti-Western stance on various domestic and international issues, including the Litvinenko murder case.

    RT’s political commentator Peter Lavelle believes such a move by the Liberal Democrats could have been expected: “The party is taking a big gamble. Historically it’s a party of personalities. Mr Zhirinovsky is very popular here and entertaining. I think the same thing will happen to Mr Lugovoy – he’ll become some kind of magnet.”

    Libel lawsuit

    Meanwhile, Mr Lugovoy has started legal proceedings against Russian newspaper Kommersant over an article linking him with the murder of Aleksandr Litvinenko. In an article entitled "Boris Berezovsky enrolled as a spy", the paper described Mr Litvinenko as Mr Lugovoy's victim.

    Mr Lugovoy says this is libellous and is seeking 20 million roubles (more than $US 700,000) in compensation and for the statement to be retracted. A court will consider the allegations next week.

    The editor-in-chief of Kommersant admits that the newspaper used incorrect wording in referring to the Russian businessman Andrey Lugovoy in the article.

    Zhirinovsky is indeed a funny guy
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    since when Vladimir Zhirinovsky became liberal democrat:hmmm:

    I remember him said that Poles are Russians who gone too far west and lost touch with main 'root' and were forced to establish a 'new' nation because of Germans expansions. Indeed he is funny guy when he opens his mounth and says something!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaerMorhen View Post
    since when Vladimir Zhirinovsky became liberal democrat
    You will be surprised, but he has always been



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    Quote Originally Posted by Khan Kong View Post
    You will be surprised, but he has always been
    let us assume - democracy has many faces

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    Why doesn't Putin make Lugovoi his successor as president?

    - they look similar
    - they both have a KGB background (and contacts)
    - they are both public heroes (Lugovoi because of the Litvinenko connection)

    Not my idea, blame Andrei Piontkovsky in Novaya Gazeta.

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    Yeah, I heard about this. No doubt a cynical way for the murderer to become immune to prosecution.

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    Zhirinovsky's LDPR (liberal-democrat party of Russia) has really nothing to do with both liberalism or being overly democratic. they are equivalent to US Republicans at best.

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    Yeah mabey the Christian Right of the Republican Party! I think their name should be changed to the Российская Националистическая Социалистическая Сторона

    okay what dose this say? Русское Национальное Социалистическая партия
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    Zhirinovksy has nothing to do with commies either.

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    BTW that dose say Russian National Socialist Party right? Or at least something close to that. Because I used a tanslator and I know how innacurate they can be.
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    it said "Russian National-Socialist Side" lmao.
    Party = Партия.

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    Damn I knew I shouldn't have trusted a internet translator!
    according to exarch I am like
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    Yeah, I heard about this. No doubt a cynical way for the murderer to become immune to prosecution.
    That would be fine and dandy if it wasn't for the fact that we had no intention of prosecuting him regardless of this, unless the Brits would hand over the evidence required to try him. And they refuse to do that, claiming instead that we should violate our constitution by extraditing him.





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    Quote Originally Posted by RusskiSoldat View Post
    That would be fine and dandy if it wasn't for the fact that we had no intention of prosecuting him regardless of this, unless the Brits would hand over the evidence required to try him. And they refuse to do that, claiming instead that we should violate our constitution by extraditing him.
    Where the **** did you get the idea that the evidence hasn't be provided? That's a pure lie.

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    The best name to his party will be National-Populistic Party.

    During the last period of Soviet era, Zhirinovsky founded his party as an oppose to the communistic one, that's why he called it liberal-democratic. He hates commies and don't miss any opportunity to blame them in all sins of this world. In fact he has nothing to do with liberalism.
    Quote Originally Posted by catinwasher View Post
    Why doesn't Putin make Lugovoi his successor as president?

    - they look similar
    - they both have a KGB background (and contacts)
    - they are both public heroes (Lugovoi because of the Litvinenko connection)

    Not my idea, blame Andrei Piontkovsky in Novaya Gazeta.
    It is simple.
    You can't just take a man from the street and make him successor.
    He must have a governing experience.
    He should have "clean" biography, etc.

    Lugovoi doesn't fit to these criterion. Being a FSB agent doesn't mean anything.
    Last edited by Khan Kong; September 18, 2007 at 02:23 AM.



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    Does anytime Zhirinovsky say something about his views concerning economy, free market and alike or he just focuses himself at nationalism???

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    Yeah he has some programmes, otherwise he wouldn't have been able to be elected during all the elections in the past.
    He feels the citizens' wishes and moods, and says what they want him to say, but does it in extreme way. But whether he would do what he says, is a good question. Often he is controversal to himself.



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    Back in 1994 he was promissing to (in the name of his party) deliver some high-tech weapons to boost Serbian strenght in the ongoing civil war, he visited his Serbian counterpart V. Seselj here in Serbia and they both gave a big speech - needless to say he never came trough with his promisse...
    Fortunatly for the Serbs, Russian Kosaks did come in significant numbers and fought alongside the Serbs in the Yugoslavian civil war.
    In those sad times for the Slavic world when both Russia and Serbia suffered dearly under the western pawns Milosevic and Yeltsin, the Kosaks, on their own decision, came to honour the anscient alliance. That chivalrous act will never be forgotten in the hearts and minds of the Serbs.
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    Ahhhh.... Zhirik.... Well, without him our poliyical life will be veeeeeeeeeeery boring.
    KaerMorhen
    Does anytime Zhirinovsky say something about his views concerning economy, free market and alike or he just focuses himself at nationalism?
    Yes, he said a lot of things about different matters, but people (me too) don't remember what he has said exactly. Because Zhirik is a perfect and dangerous debateer and clever man. He can defeate anyone. A man of great tallent. It's too bad that he is a politic. he must be an actor or film/theater dirrector.
    Nationalist? Well... Probably yes, but his nationalism is not agressive (like ex-general Albert Makashov) In Zhirinovsky's party a lot of clowns, like Mitrofanov, but they are shadows of Zhirinovsky's talent. All their ideology - money.
    In first Duma in 1993 Zhrinovsky's party was a major one. Looks like it was people's protest against all that 'reforming' mess.

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    sorry to revive this thread, but there was a new documentary that came out today on Lugovoj on RT.


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