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    Default [Decision] Permanent Banning of enoch

    *ahem*

    The Greek city-states would banish citizens who were a detriment to their community. The Roman Senate would declare citizens who were a detriment to the city "Enemies of Rome" and banish them from the Republic on pain of death. The Curia...well, the Curia hands out medals for playing games. It is time for a change!

    We have a member whose posts have become a nuisance and a blight on TWC's otherwise shiny forums. His spamming of the Q&S forum has reached new heights. Staff has closed no fewer than seven of his threads in the last 72 hours. Witness:



    Now, enoch blames his annoying posts on me; more specifically, on my rather strict interpretation of the ToS last June. While this argument may help explain his rash actions back then, it holds no water today. I resigned in late July in the midst of a complete overhaul of the ToS by Hex. One of the consequences of the overhaul was that everyone's "criminal record" was wiped clean (as otherwise some members would have fallen through the cracks). My successor told enoch that he was being given a second chance. I was no longer around to "antagonize" him with my presence. We have all been witness to his response. Indeed, his spamming has reached new heights not seen last June or July. It is time that we put an end to this. He will continue spamming until somebody disconnects his internet or he is banned, whichever comes first. While it is quite possible that Hex would veto this decision should it go anywhere, we can't be faulted for trying.

    And so, my fellow citizens, I propose the following Curial Decision:

    Decision
    • The member 'enoch' is to be permanently banned from TWC. Given his past insistence on using alt accounts to evade suspension, an IP ban shall be administered as well should Hex determine it to be technically feasible.


    Proposer: Erich von Manstein
    Supporters: Noble Savage, Gary88, Evariste, Sir Paladin, Leonidas the Lion, jimkatalanos



    It is time that the Curia ceased patting itself on the back and started contributing to the well-being of the site. This is a golden opportunity to do just that.
    Last edited by Erich von Manstein; September 13, 2007 at 12:08 PM.
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    Default Re: [Decision] Permanent Banning of enoch

    euh? this is certainly a, um, departure from the curias normal ways...

    As for an IP Ban, well, as I am sure you are aware, there are certain... logistical difficulties (you never did put my suggestion in your sig ) presented for such a large site...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigagaia View Post
    euh? this is certainly a, um, departure from the curias normal ways...

    As for an IP Ban, well, as I am sure you are aware, there are certain... logistical difficulties (you never did put my suggestion in your sig ) presented for such a large site...
    Aye, class was cancelled, I was bored, and I figured I'd try something new. I've adjusted the IP ban clause accordingly.

    (And what was your suggestion? My memory grows dim in my old age. Unless you are referring to my accidental banning of all Romanians from the site...I do remember that )
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    I support ,his games serve no purpose and are past funny
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    Default Re: [Decision] Permanent Banning of enoch

    Quote Originally Posted by Erich von Manstein View Post
    Aye, class was cancelled, I was bored, and I figured I'd try something new. I've adjusted the IP ban clause accordingly.

    (And what was your suggestion? My memory grows dim in my old age. Unless you are referring to my accidental banning of all Romanians from the site...I do remember that )
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    Default Re: [Decision] Permanent Banning of enoch

    Well, at least it takes the heat off me for blaming Icefrisco for putting flouride in my toothpaste...

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    Default Re: [Decision] Permanent Banning of enoch

    I'd support, but I guess it's too harsh. I hope enoch simply gets a life someday and goes away.

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    Default Re: [Decision] Permanent Banning of enoch

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPaladin View Post
    I'd support, but I guess it's too harsh. I hope enoch simply gets a life someday and goes away.
    So how about we give him a helping hand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erich von Manstein View Post
    So how about we give him a helping hand?
    Good point.

    Ok, I support.

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    Default Re: [Decision] Permanent Banning of enoch

    Um - hell yes?

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    Default Re: [Decision] Permanent Banning of enoch

    i'll support


    The Greek city-states would banish citizens who were a detriment to their community. The Roman Senate would declare citizens who were a detriment to the city "Enemies of Rome" and banish them from the Republic on pain of death. The Curia...well, the Curia hands out medals for playing games. It is time for a change!
    indeed twc seems to be the only website on earth that doesn't simply ban people who are constantly causing trouble. whilst that is a good thing it seems enoch is abusing this and enough is enough
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    Default Re: [Decision] Permanent Banning of enoch

    We permanently banned Ckerr after creating nothing but spam threads, and I don't see why we can't do the same for Enoch.


    I support.

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    I support.
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    I support.
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    Default Re: [Decision] Permanent Banning of enoch

    Any chance we could waive the 72 hour delay and take this to a vote?
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    Default Re: [Decision] Permanent Banning of enoch

    For the sake honouring the law, shouldn't the wait time be maintained, no matter the discomfiture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Arrrgh! View Post
    For the sake honouring the law, shouldn't the wait time be maintained, no matter the discomfiture?
    Of course it will be maintained.
    Ερωτηθεὶς τι ποτ' αυτώ περιγέγονεν εκ φιλοσοφίας, έφη, «Το ανεπιτάκτως ποιείν ά τινες διά τον από των νόμων φόβον ποιούσιν.


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    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    The universe is change; our life is what our thoughts make it.


    The soul becomes dyed with the color of its thoughts.


    If you desire to be good, begin by believing that you are wicked.


    We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.


    οὕτως ἀταλαίπωρος τοῖς πολλοῖς ἡ ζήτησις τῆς ἀληθείας, καὶ ἐπὶ τὰ ἑτοῖμα μᾶλλον τρέπονται.


    Questions are not necessarily there to be answered, but possibly there to inspire thinking.


    Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, - quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes.


    If mind is common to us, then also the reason, whereby we are reasoning beings, is common. If this be so, then also the reason which enjoins what is to be done or left undone is common. If this be so, law also is common; if this be so, we are citizens; if this be so, we are partakers in one constitution; if this be so, the Universe is a kind of commonwealth.


    Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.


    There is no chaos in the world, only complexity.
    Knowledge of the complex is wisdom.
    From wisdom of the world comes wisdom of the self.
    Mastery of the self is mastery of the world. Loss of the self is the source of suffering.
    Suffering is a choice, and we can refuse it.
    It is in our power to create the world, or destroy it.


    Homo homini lupus est. Homo sacra res homini.


    When deeds speak, words are nothing.


    Human history is a litany of blood, shed over different ideals of rulership and afterlife


    Sol lucet omnibus.


    You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.


    Neither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.


    The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.


    Ο Νούς νοεί τον εαυτόν του ως κράτιστος και η νόησή του είναι της νοήσεως νόησις.


    'Nothing is true, everything is permitted.' is merely an observation of the nature of reality. To say that nothing is true, is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say that everything is permitted, is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.

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    Default Re: [Decision] Permanent Banning of enoch

    agreed, wait the 72
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    Default Re: [Decision] Permanent Banning of enoch

    I was thinking more because of the fact that getting support for this won't be a problem...but I'm fine either way.
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    Yes, Arrgh, and it will be.

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