Oh Shoot........

[Roman Clone]

Sadly, My computer died this morning. I was trying to back-up all of my data, well, the most important data, and windows died in the middle of it. Dammit, and it gets worse........


So I decided to reformat, and no matter which option I choose it does a little loading and I just get a BSOD. I am getting a little mad now because I've used 3 recovery CD's so far and none of them worked. Sadly, I do not have access to it right now so I can't show you the Error message, what I do remember is it saying something about NFTDS or something like that. Any Suggestions?


PS. I'm typing from my brothers dell and to tell you the truth it isn't so bad, Vista isn't such a pain as you guys sometimes think it to be.

[Dick]

You again eh.

I haven't got alot to say about the reformatting, except you will need to use the recovery CD specific to the PC. They are ussually tied into the PC if it's a pre-built. NTFS is probably the error message you are recieving. It's the type of file system that most hard drives use these days (as opposed to FAT32).

My suggestion, get the important data off of your hard drive by putting it in another PC. If it's an IDE drive you will have to set it as a slave by taking the little thing in the top out (I don't know what this is called, so just look for a little cap-like thingy on pins at the top of the drive).

Once you have the important data, then experiment with ways to fix the windows install, although it may the the case the hard drive has died, or any of the other components.

[Roman Clone]

Sorry, I have to be able to fix this without removing anything..... My dads home on weekends. If he catches me looking inside the case, I won't even be allowed to even have a new one. Really, at this point I don't give a care about what I'm Losing. It's just the RTR music pack and a few saved games, everything else is saved on my other accounts on websites, or my flash drive.


Then again, he forgets that when he is too old to work, I'm going to be in charge his world maybe if I can persuade him to help me or I will put him in a nursing home...

EDIT: I was at a boy scout meeting for a while and my dad had a go at it. When he finished, he wasn't exactly a happy camper. Sadly, I also forgot to mention that Windows gave us a new 4-string code about almost every time. I really wish it's just bad detection skills because I don't want to have to deal with 55555555555550000000000000000000000000000000000000000 different hardware problems.

[Lacirtemis]

Hard drives have a generic file system, FAT32 was the old standard across the computing world and then Microsoft, purely for ***** and giggles, decided they wanted their own special filing system and so we have NTFS,

You want the files? You have to deal with the hardware, there is no magical software that will fix this.

Sorry, looks like you have remove something.

[GrnEyedDvl]

I realize this is off topic for this thread but I cant let statements like this go unchallenged:

Hard drives have a generic file system, FAT32 was the old standard across the computing world and then Microsoft, purely for ***** and giggles, decided they wanted their own special filing system and so we have NTFS,

You want the files? You have to deal with the hardware, there is no magical software that will fix this.

Sorry, looks like you have remove something.

Actually FAT32 was basically something made for the second release of Windows 95 and was not "generic" across platforms. First there was FAT12 and FAT16. NTFS added some capabilities and some security settings, just like the new versions of FAT did, it wasnt done for spits and giggles.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...sConfidential/

Linux/Unix have their own file systems that have also evolved to changing technology: ExtFS2 probably being the most popular but there is DavFS2 and there have been lots of other ones, MinixFS, VFS, ExtFS, ViaFS
http://users.ictp.it/~radionet/nuc19...sag/node76.htm
http://web.mit.edu/tytso/www/linux/ext2intro.html

Sun Microsystems came out with the ZFS file system for Solaris 10, before that they had UFS
http://www.sun.com/2004-0914/feature/

Apple uses HFS for Mac OS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchical_File_System

If you want to ***** about Microsoft there are plenty of legitmate reasons you dont have to invent more.


For the original poster:
A BSOD is hardware related, sometimes its hardware failure sometimes its a driver issue, wrong driver or corrupt driver or something like that. Try booting to Safe Mode, when your machine starts to boot press F8 and keep pressing it until you either get a choice for how to boot or get the BSOD. If you actually get it to boot then try going to System Restore from inside Safe Mode and roll it back to a date before you had the problem.

As someone else said, Restore CDs are usually machine specific, a Dell CD only works on a Dell machine. This is done by detecting things in the BIOS. You really need the one that came with your machine if you dont have a regular Windows CD.

If you or your father arent comfortable with removing the hard drive and everything else doesnt work then take the entire machine to a local shop and have them test the hard drive.

[Roman Clone]

I realize this is off topic for this thread but I cant let statements like this go unchallenged:


Actually FAT32 was basically something made for the second release of Windows 95 and was not "generic" across platforms. First there was FAT12 and FAT16. NTFS added some capabilities and some security settings, just like the new versions of FAT did, it wasnt done for spits and giggles.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...sConfidential/

Linux/Unix have their own file systems that have also evolved to changing technology: ExtFS2 probably being the most popular but there is DavFS2 and there have been lots of other ones, MinixFS, VFS, ExtFS, ViaFS
http://users.ictp.it/~radionet/nuc1996/ref/sag/node76.htm
http://web.mit.edu/tytso/www/linux/ext2intro.html

Sun Microsystems came out with the ZFS file system for Solaris 10, before that they had UFS
http://www.sun.com/2004-0914/feature/

Apple uses HFS for Mac OS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchical_File_System

If you want to ***** about Microsoft there are plenty of legitmate reasons you dont have to invent more.


For the original poster:
A BSOD is hardware related, sometimes its hardware failure sometimes its a driver issue, wrong driver or corrupt driver or something like that. Try booting to Safe Mode, when your machine starts to boot press F8 and keep pressing it until you either get a choice for how to boot or get the BSOD. If you actually get it to boot then try going to System Restore from inside Safe Mode and roll it back to a date before you had the problem.

As someone else said, Restore CDs are usually machine specific, a Dell CD only works on a Dell machine. This is done by detecting things in the BIOS. You really need the one that came with your machine if you dont have a regular Windows CD.

If you or your father arent comfortable with removing the hard drive and everything else doesnt work then take the entire machine to a local shop and have them test the hard drive.

Yes, I tried safemode and that crap. Nothing works........But I'll try again...

We already removed the hard drive, does anyone listen! I think with in a month I'm just gonna have him buy me parts and let me build it... No more Computers from gateway

[Simetrical]

Actually FAT32 was basically something made for the second release of Windows 95 and was not "generic" across platforms. First there was FAT12 and FAT16. NTFS added some capabilities and some security settings, just like the new versions of FAT did, it wasnt done for spits and giggles.

Well, FAT is partially standardized by ECMA and ISO, and is relatively simple and easy to implement, so there's something to what Lacirtemis says. (The Linux kernel doesn't have reliable write support for NTFS to this day.) However, the improvements in NTFS were dramatic. FAT32 had to be defragmented almost constantly, for instance, and it had no journaling, so after a crash every single file had to be painstakingly inspected for integrity. NTFS also allows useful things like transparent compression. NTFS was a clear improvement over FAT32, and it's consequently on par with other major filesystems today for general use.

[OTZ]

If your hard drive failed, than you're SOL. As Lacirtemis mentioned, you'll have to swap some parts and the first thing should be that HD. You'll have to rule out parts one by one until you find the problem.

[Roman Clone]

My Dad Tried that.......... Didn't work. I knew one day if I let that problem continue it was going to die. Looks like I couldn't fix it in time......
If it was my RAM, it wouldn't be this extreme, and that only gives us the Network Adapter which couldn't have done this.

[Dick]

If it's not the RAM, the Hard drive, or the PSU, it's probably the motherboard.