Strange movements

**Solon de Atenas** · September 07, 2007, 06:24 PM

I don´t know if someone have asked this yet... sorry, but what´s wrong in the RTR animatios? In my game sometimes the units in battle are dispersed and making stupids movements (the phalanx unit for example) Sometimes this disperes unit running but they never get move of the same place. Sorry for this question in this moment, only need information about this problem.

THANKS

**Juba1** · September 07, 2007, 06:43 PM

yup, for me Carthaginians sacred band infantery start a moonwalk movment when they win a battle...

i think its strange but i like it anyway...

**florin80** · September 07, 2007, 06:43 PM

That`s a rather confusing post. I can only guess using the little info you gave. There are two bugs in RTW(not related to RTR specifically):
1. the units get stucked in the place where they have killed the enemy. For some reason one or two of the soldiers in your unit keep "fighting" with the dead enemy and as a result the rest of the unit can`t leave the place. They just scatter around it.
2. there is a problem with the phalanx in RTW v1.5. Especially when they fight another phalanx they draw swords almost immediately after contact and they lose the formation. Then you even have guys wondering far away or fighting air away form the line of fighting.

Any of these seem like what you had experienced?

**Solon de Atenas** · September 07, 2007, 08:42 PM

Ok, I´m sorry. The first problem I Know, this happen (for example) on siege attack with siege equipements on walls. And the second, for me is good, sometimes this make the battle more realistic, more caotic but my question I think that isn´t it.

This problem I only had seen in RTR, It´s difficult to explained but It´s when all unit are fighting, gradually the unit one by one begin to walk very slow and move apart the formation, this units sometimes fighting with the air or running but they can´t move of his far place. I´m going to try explain this with a screenshoot, but with a video is better....

**florin80** · September 07, 2007, 08:54 PM

Ah. That has nothing to do with animations. Plus, we use the vanilla animations mostly with only a few of sig1`s. The thing which you describe is probably related to the formations. We use Darth`s by default I think, but several members are very happy with the ones Sinuhet has done. You can try those and see if they suit you better. I think they are in the optional add-ons pack. Or you could download them from his sub-forum here at twc.

**Solon de Atenas** · September 07, 2007, 09:05 PM

Ok but i´m going to put some screenshoot for you see. Ah sometimes the units jumpiing like a invisible elephant hit they... see please, it´s a formation problem sure??

I use shinuet formations....

THANKS FLORIN YOU ARE GREAT

**svramj** · September 07, 2007, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Solon de Atenas

Ah sometimes the units jumpiing like a invisible elephant hit they... see please, it´s a formation problem sure??

This happens when there is a clash in the unit formations....when they get to close and cant accommodate.....the unit gets thrown

all the screenshots shows that they all happen bocz of the above reason i've mentioned....and some as said by flourin...when they go apart form the toop

Merged the two posts. Please use the edit button.

**Solon de Atenas** · September 07, 2007, 09:47 PM

No, no no, this I know. but when the unit isn´t in the middle of the formation are alone jumping and jumping until the red line of battle map, no stop, jumping and jumping and fight alone with invisible units this units are to move further away of his formations... it´s difficult to explain but you can see the screenshoot

**Companion Cavalry** · September 07, 2007, 10:51 PM

Got the same thing, in classic Diadochi-style clashes of armies

with phalanxes (in RTRPE 1.9), they move out of phalanx formation and some start

moving around the field around them often wandering until the end of the

fight doing some random action over and over again

**Sarkiss** · September 08, 2007, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by Companion Cavalry

Got the same thing, in classic Diadochi-style clashes of armies

with phalanxes (in RTRPE 1.9), they move out of phalanx formation and some start

moving around the field around them often wandering until the end of the

fight doing some random action over and over again

nothing to do with RTR. for me it frequently happens with EB.

EDIT: not only on 1.5 but with BI's exe too.

**Artax** · September 08, 2007, 05:07 AM

For me this was a quite frequent bug. When phalanx engages the enemy, some men from unit starts to walk back slowly(like moonwalk). After some time whole unit starts to walk back. I think this happens becouse unit tries to hold formation and get those "lost" soldiers back.

Only resolve to this problem that I found was to press Backspace button lots of times when phalanx units are engaged. This prevents men walking out of unit. It's a bit annoying, but helps for me( even saved me from some defeats).

**florin80** · September 08, 2007, 06:17 AM

Afaik it is vanilla and not mod specific. I`m not sure if the formations or something like that could have made it worse, but it wasn`t RTRPE`s creation. And I also think that it came into being with the RTW v1.5/BI v1.6 version.

**svramj** · September 08, 2007, 03:07 AM

???? i think its not any invisible enemy....but some enemy far away.....i have experienced a similar bug

**G_the_Great** · September 08, 2007, 04:02 AM

I think that I have experienced similar problems.

When a phalanx engages with the enemy, some of the members move away from the main body of the phalanx and end up spread out around the battlefield.

**Solon de Atenas** · September 08, 2007, 10:26 AM

Ok, at now I think that all understand the problem. I´m going to try changing the shinuet formation to Darth, if this not work, I´m going try with other animations.

PLEASE, MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS, PUT HERE...

THANKS FOR ALL