missing factions?

[runtheplacered]

Ok, am I missing factions or is the Wiki incorrect? The wiki has these nations as being in the game:

• Kievan Rus'
• Abbassid Caliphate
• Syrian Caliphate
• Kwarzemian Empire
• Wallachia
• Moldavia
• Transilvania
• Banat
• Dobrogea

I see a few of those.. such as Kieven Rus', Abbassid Caliphate, Syrian Caliphate, and I think Kwarzemian Empire.

But the Romania region provinces aren't there.

But then there's a list under those that say "Planned Factions", so it makes it sound as if those Romania region provinces are supposed to be in the game. What am I missing here?

[pmn25]

I think only the top four factions you have listed are availible in the current release. I do not have the lower five listed so Im sure they are not missing.

[Irishmafia2020]

I have not heard of any plans to add the bottom five of those factions... I believe that the Cumans and Georgians are the only factions that are currently planned by the mod-maker in the near future, and that is because the caucus region is empty of factions at the moment... users may add other factions though, so those files may eventually be posted...

[runtheplacered]

nice to hear Georgia and Cuman will make their way into this mod. The only other faction off of the top of my head I'd love to see would be Aragon. It'd give the Iberian peninsula a little more to deal with.

Fantastic mod though keep up all the great work.

[Fargham]

Torn has stated this before - but I will repeat it:
The Wiki is for Version 2.1 - which is not yet released. He got excited and updated the Wiki before finishing the release.

[Xeno_cws]

True fargham the wiki is updated for 2.1 but there will be no new factions added this time around (unless thats torns super secret project).

[Pestache]

i am from romania.it would be great if the romanian factions came out

[Rex Inanimatus]

i am sorry pestache most of this mod is about historical important nations and like ireland your country hasn't got any.

[Thommas Anderson]

i am sorry pestache most of this mod is about historical important nations and like ireland your country hasn't got any.

Maybe you should learn some history, then...

[acegogo]

rex. cut it out.I am not going to get into a debate about this.

[Xeno_cws]

Pestache, despite Rex's 'tact' way of putting it I have to concur. While the area of modern day Romania has ton of history back during this time period, not enough was done by a single principality to be considered a faction.

This is especially true since Hungary at that time held part of modern day Romania and is already in the game.

Wallachia and Moldavia the only two possible factions where founded much later then the start point (1300's) so they can't be in anyways.

[Rex Inanimatus]

sorry for being straight forward and very outspoken in all my replies. I love this mod and game and history is my passion. I know i am not the nicest person on earth.

[yxc qwert!]

# Wallachia
# Moldavia
# Transilvania
# Banat
# Dobrogea
i quote myself:

Transylvania and the Banat (it's a modern term!!!) were a part of the Hungarian Kingdom. Dobrogea is a Turkish word meaning 'delta'.Wallachia was (as i know) until Basarab a Hungarian vassal, and Moldavia even longer. Dobrogea and Banat never were a state! And even if they were (tell me sources, in English) there are many other important factions as Cumans, Genoa, Burgundy, even Irish...

and Condottiere SOG

Gascony
Aragon
Wales
Eire
England(Lancaster and York-one would be emergent)
Norvej
Saxon England
Svenske
Bohemia
Bavaria
Savoy
Lombardy
Pisa
Florence
Montenegro
Rhodes, then Malta(Hospitallers)
Tunisia
Provencal
Modena
Tyrol
Low Countries
Normandy
Kingdoms of Jerusalem, Acre and Tyre(Hosptallers first home)
Kingdoms of Crete and Cyprus
Caliphate of Granada
Serbia
Croatia
Bosnia
Herzegovina
Sluina
Tartars
Cumans
DonCossacks
VistulaCossacks
Polish-Cossack Allies
Teutons
Georgia


shall I go on..........

[Condottiere SOG]

And in truth I would subdivide HRE in its original three ecclesiastical Electorates and add the later secular four as emergent. Much like how the Papacy is set up, with the leadership changing depending on where the Holy Roman Emperor is from. And I would not have stopped the calendar at 1530 but have gone on through 1690 and made Empire a continuation(or an add-on). Of course nuch of this would have req'd CA to start a new engine for M2. So much the better. Also, all the rebel factions for an existing faction would be their own and emerging at times of historical unrest. Upon their success could turn into the new lead faction, offering the player the chance to play with a new face(or type of government/monarchy). Factions could re-emerge as no one family held complete sway over a state. Ah, pipe-dreams.

[yxc qwert!]

I suggest this thread should be closed. It's full of flame and trolling. From each sides (even me). It makes me angry.

[acegogo]

the thread is about somehing else, bit if people continue I will close it.

[anaztazioch]

What i would like to see is Lithuania, Norway/Sweden, Goergia, Armenia/Antioch and Edessa, Cumans, Dutchy of Moscow(Ryazzan or Khaazan, but they are post mongolic), Croatia, Mali.

Lithuania, as there is too much free space betwean Poland, Novgorod, Kiev.
Moscow to fill the empty "Russian" steppe terrains.
Goergia az These parts are empty.
Armenia/Antioch and Edessa to fill empty space betwean Syria, Turks and Abbasid (make Jihaads more interesting).
Cumans - guess
Croatia, There is a hole betwean Hungary and Byzantine.
Mali, Africa is too empty and i like Mali :p

[Averroës]

I think, at this point, we're looking mainly to issue as bug-free an update as we can accomplish as TLR 2.0B and then switch efforts to Darth Ages which is updating TLR to Kingdoms. At that point, after Darth Ages is running well, Naimad has said he'll look at adding new factions.

With Tornnight gone, I don't think we can do much more than this.

[anaztazioch]

It wasnt a request, it was joining discution