When will ill be able to get my paws on kindoms?

[Pizza de Oveja]

Hi there buddies in killin maimin pillage rape and burnin...
Anybody can tell me why those CA guys dont still sell kimdoms on totalwar.com online shop?
Damm! there is only one thing I hate more that senseless stupid consumism and that is when I cant get the latest newest stuff I desperately need to go on living!!!!

[Don in the North]

i heard kingdoms fails at life and the patch screws up mods.

so i wont be bothering till patch is released to fix the major remaining bugs of m2tw 1.2

[Lacirtemis]

Isn't it available on Steam? (If you are desperate...).

Kingdoms never had a life so it would of been hard for it to pass that test anyway.
As for mods, etc, well, it's an expansion, it changes stuff, mystery solved?

The only annoying remaining bugs are ones still present from M2TW's release, cavalry pathfinding and charging, and both these are work around-able, and are fixable (somewhat) by text file changes...I have no idea why they weren't fixed properly however, as if Gamespy mentions them in a review of a Total war game you know they are bad.

(I personally am debating whether or not to get Kingdoms, as M2TW hasn't done it for me, but the teutonic campaign sounds like something I would really like).

[Don in the North]

pathfinding is the #1 issue on top of my list, not just for cavalry but ALL units inside settlements.
this problem was present in rome, present in BI, and its most likely present in kingdoms precious 1.3 patch that doesnt fix any bugs at all.

so ill avoid kingdoms with every ounce of intelligence i can muster. i refuse to waste money on games that the designers dont care about. surely we should be more than just consumers to them?

[Pizza de Oveja]

Although I hardly condone that kind of negative mentality I understand that frustration. I had the same until darth and 1.2 fixed most of that crappy problems. It was pretty frustrating to see my general being unable to enter cities or cavalry to disperse when on pursuit of fleing units. (that thing crippled the game cause it was prety frustrating and took all the fun of battles IMHO)

Thank god darth and his team fixed all of that or at least much of it.
Sadly he wont be fixing more CA beta releases anymore cause he had problems with them so I guess we are out of luck. Ive tried most other mods and you can really tell the difference.

I hope he somehow reconsiders but as of now he is quiting
I will miss him a lot!

[Lusted]

and the patch screws up mods.

It shouldn't, LTC works fine with 1.3, so i would assume most other mods will as 1.3 doesn't add in new variables unlike Kingdoms, but thats a seperate .exe.