Polish Units

[Drakkar]

This mod rocks!
I really enjoy it.

By the way i'm playing with poland and i like it very much, but i noted that in their rooster is missing the unit Dismounted Polish Nobles and Dismounted Lithuanian Cavalry.

I'm really grateful if someone could tell me how to insert them in the campaign.

If it is impossible it's not a problem cause this game modded is really funny!

[Quark]

Drakkar
Ok, they are in the EDU, so its a case of figuring where they should go in the EDB. I would say that DPN are equivalent to Dismounted Noble Knights, so lets add them to an armoury.

1. Open ..\data\export_descr_buildings.txt
2. Find (Ctrl+F) Dismounted Noble Knights
3. Copy and paste the line directly underneath
4. Edit the line to say Dismounted Polish Nobles eg.

recruit_pool "Dismounted Noble Knights" 1 0.5 4 0 requires factions { france, }
recruit_pool "Dismounted Polish Nobles" 1 0.5 4 0 requires factions { poland, }
recruit_pool "Dismounted Imperial Knights" 1 0.5 4 0 requires factions { hre, }

Do the same for Dismounted Lithuanian Cavalry from a missile building.

[Drakkar]

Ok!
thx for the fast and good answer!

i'll try this out this evening.

Perhaps i'll take an unfair advantage against AI players but i don't mind i like too much new units!

Thx really much !

[Drakkar]

Thanks Quark
It Worked!
now i have 2 new units in polish rooster .... and i'm enjoying it so much!

I needed to lower their upkeep (280 for polish nobles is too much!) but this was easy.

Could you tell me how i can add anti-cavalry bonus to them like all the other spear milita have?

Thanks for help!

[Caesar Clivus]

The anti-cavalry bonus has to be put into the EDU. open it up and find another spear unit to find out where to put it.

[Drakkar]

The anti-cavalry bonus has to be put into the EDU. open it up and find another spear unit to find out where to put it.

Thanks! when i got back from work i'll try this out!

[gornison]

I think Polish rooster sucks. It is so unhistorical. And CA did nothing about it in Kingdoms.

[Drakkar]

I think Polish rooster sucks. It is so unhistorical. And CA did nothing about it in Kingdoms.

Don't know if it is unhistorical ... i only know that poland had very good cavalry cause their land is a wide range plain and that in late centuries they had good gun unities.

But for their rooster i like it very much!

they have everything!

archer with stakes, archer with long distance bow, riding archer, riding crossbow, riding javelin ..

Polish spear noble and dimounted polish knights and phalanx militia.

Also good artillery ...

And the feature i like most is that i can face every challenge in this game Mongols, timurids, america's, eastern and western factions ....

[delra]

gornison: It's not that bad. I've heard they gave us a new unit!

They also decided to make Poland not be a playable faction in ETW. CA 2:0 Poland. Maybe we need to go down there with baseball bats and show our convincing power to them...

Quark: Maybe the lack of those in EDB should be reported as a 4.1 bug?

[delra]

Yeah, we have everything. Peasants with bows, peasants with sticks, peasants with forks, peasants with swords, peasants with spears... Everybody is dressed in brown clothes, has a weird hat and looks dirty. Our only decent infantry is dismounted polish knights. Our nobles fight with spears which they would never do in reality./ What a roster... :-)

Check this out: http://www.petitiononline.com/kingdoms/petition.html

[thrashing_mad]

Yeah, we have everything. Peasants with bows, peasants with sticks, peasants with forks, peasants with swords, peasants with spears... Everybody is dressed in brown clothes, has a weird hat and looks dirty. Our only decent infantry is dismounted polish knights. Our nobles fight with spears which they would never do in reality./ What a roster... :-)

Check this out: http://www.petitiononline.com/kingdoms/petition.html

Yeah in Kingdoms they added new unit - Polish archers, which looks exactly like Lithuanian Archers, but without stakes and with worse stats.

[Drakkar]

Delra Yeah, we have everything. Peasants with bows, peasants with sticks, peasants with forks, peasants with swords, peasants with spears... Everybody is dressed in brown clothes, has a weird hat and looks dirty. Our only decent infantry is dismounted polish knights. Our nobles fight with spears which they would never do in reality./ What a roster... :-)

I got your point! but i like them the same! dunno why .. i like the white dress and red shield ...

I didn't subscribe your petition because i like lithuanian cavalry, lithuanian archers, and dism. lith cavalry .... i like archers with stakes too much to lost them!

[Caesar Clivus]

Delra have you got any sources for historical info on Poland's forces? I know next to nothing about them

[delra]

You have links under the petition... :-)

I know it's a problem in Australia to find books on medieval Poland. One of CA officials admitted that it was the reason why they screwed polish roster.

[Caesar Clivus]

I think you can replace "reason" with "excuse" in your last sentence We do have the internet in Australia now

[delra]

Lithuanian units should belong to Lithuania not Poland. The times of Commonwealth are far ahead from the game time scale.

As for polish archers. We have no normal archers. I use mercenary crossbows when I play Poland. The first thing to fix. :-(

By the way, I remember somebody saying that CA planned to put Lithuanian coat of arms (a horseman) instead of our eagle. This would be funny. :-)

[Quark]

Perhaps somebody with a better knowledge of Polish military history in the period should do a EDB list. But yes, I believe its a bug that the units are not in by default. As to the graphics, I thats outside my skill, perhaps someone of the polish forums has done new unit skins to import.

[delra]

Yeah. There's mod in progress with a good research and a nice skinner too. I've read about it in the petition thread. When they release something, I will bug you to import a few units into SS, you can count on me here. :-)

[thrashing_mad]

One necessary change can be made without much effort methinks - Give Poland Druzhyna as early unit - historically we had "Drużyna" from Xth century to reign of Bolesław II Krzywousty (1138).

[Kiki52]

Is Stainless Steel planning on having delra's new Polish units?

Also, will Poland have a better variety of both archers and heavy infantry too? I was thinking maybe Poland could have some type of roster similar to the Byzzies. Maybe the Polish Nobles armed with sword, be a medium infantry unit like Byzantine Infantry but also can throw javelins but also use a sword so it fills two roles.

Then also, I was hoping for Dismounted Feudal Knights for Poland, or some equivalent that would have good melee for early period so it can go better at HRE and things, and Dismounted Polish Knights be somewhat better than their version of DFK.