Mod idea - introduce Protestanism as new religion.

**Slim_Ghost** · September 05, 2007, 10:32 PM

I am planning to write a script that somewhere in mid game Martin Luther introduces Protestanism in Europe. Then the Catholic factions can opt to officially change their religion and then demolish their churches in order to build the Protestant ones.

The benefit of converting to Protestanism is that the faction are freed from the control of the Papacy - which means it can go attack other Catholic factions or even sack Rome without any excommunication penalty. The Protestant Churches also carry a slightly higher happiness bonus because the loyalty of the church lies to the King (am i wrong????).

But the cons are of course, since the faction is no longer serving the Pope it can not participate in any Crusades. Also they can expect Inquisitors to be knocking their doorstep every single turn. Plus, the relations between the Papal States and that faction greatly detiorates (and post possibly they declare war at you).

Good idea or not?Sorry for my totally sucktastic English...

**Taiko** · September 05, 2007, 10:45 PM

Sounds great let me know when the mod is done.

**MattErickson** · September 05, 2007, 11:20 PM

This should really be in the mod ideas thread or just the general M2TW mod thread.

Just wondering but wasn't Martin Luther 20th century?

Another flaw is that other Christian faction would hate you. I don't know about the AI's ability to choose between different churches and thus a different religion. They just pick what ever is better for their town, if they need happiness or whatnot.

The Pope would eventually call crusades again you as Catholic in this time were very harsh against anyone non Catholic, even some other forms of Christianity.

**Slim_Ghost** · September 05, 2007, 11:24 PM

Sorry about that, my knowledge of history is a little messed up at the moment...

**Dogman** · September 06, 2007, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by Slim_Ghost

Sorry about that, my knowledge of history is a little messed up at the moment...

No, you are correct. It was Martin Luther, a German theologian, that founded protestantism. MattErickson is probably confused with Martin Luther King Jr, the black rights activist.

**Amaris** · September 06, 2007, 01:32 AM

Martin Luther lived 1483 - 1546

In 1517 - the legend says - he nailed a paper with 95 theses on the portal of the church of Wittenberg. With this act the reformation began.

Since the MTW2 campaign ends in 1530 this would be a little bit late, if you want to implement protestantism historically correct.
But in principle the idea sounds nice to me though.

Greetings,
Amaris

**Johan217** · September 06, 2007, 05:33 AM

Heresy!

Could be a good mod for an add-on campaign set in the 16th century. I don't know if there is a hard-coded limit for religions?

**Evolution** · September 06, 2007, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by MattErickson

This should really be in the mod ideas thread or

Just wondering but wasn't Martin Luther 20th century?

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LMAO not that guy. beside Martin Luther 20th century was a baptist

**Spurius** · September 06, 2007, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by |MeMw|Obi-Wan

LMAO not that guy. beside Martin Luther 20th century was a baptist

Check the Bowie and Queen song Under Pressure on youtube - some guy went on there last week how they stole that riff from Vanilla Ice.

[edit OT:] you would have to create a separate religion really, is easiest IMO. Would be a big scripting job though, if you want to make it convincing, with riots damaging Catholic churches, maybe even a Baron's revolt with a religious twist would be fun.

**schoenkoenig** · September 06, 2007, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by |MeMw|Obi-Wan

LMAO not that guy. beside Martin Luther 20th century was a baptist

You mean Martin Luther <i>King, Jr.</i>.

**Darkarbiter** · September 06, 2007, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by schoenkoenig

You mean Martin Luther <i>King, Jr.</i>.

Why the heck was he called that... I don't see any connection at all.

**wkndwrrr** · September 08, 2007, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Darkarbiter

Why the heck was he called that... I don't see any connection at all.

...Seriously?

Martin Luther was a German monk who was disgusted at some of the practices of the Catholic church of his time, and declared that there were 95 things that needed to be changed. (95 Theses) He wanted to start merely a reform movement within Catholicism that would correct these problems he saw. However, it ended up creating a breakaway sect of Christianity, known as collectively as Protestantism. Ever heard of the Protestant denomination called Lutheranism?
(1483-1546)

Martin Luther King was a Protestant Baptist minister who was named after Martin Luther, (who was indirectly the founder of all Protestant faiths, including the Baptist one.) He was a minor civil rights leader.
(1899-1984)

Martin Luther King Jr. was also a Baptist minister, named after his father, who was named after Martin Luther. He was and is arguably the most important civil rights leader in America, and was assassinated for it.
(1929-1968)

Even if you are not from the US, I would think you would have at least heard of all of these people.

**CtrlAltDe1337** · September 06, 2007, 11:08 PM

I think this is agreat idea but its more fitting for something like Renaissance TW.

**delra** · September 08, 2007, 08:52 AM

Protestantism needs different way of thinking from people. It needs different cultural and philosophical trends. All this was not the case in middle ages.

It took a lot of Greek scholars from Constantinople to migrate to Europe after (and before) the fall of the city to change the way Europeans were thinking.

The point is, Protestantism is just impossible in middle ages.