Metro-Naval Mod not installing?

[Akmatov]

OK, I must be doing something wrong in the installation.

I had a happily installed and working pair of RTRPE v1.9 Rome and Barbarian Invasion, using the RTRPE v1.9 Mod Switch version, with the two shortcuts you get after installing RTRPE over RTW+BI. Then I installed MNM for v1.9 on top. Problems:

1) I seem to be unable to run BI now. The only new shortcut installed by the MNM mod, BI-MNM, requires the BI CD in the drive, but is running the MetroNaval version of RTW, ie starts at 380 BC.

2) I'm not at all sure MNM installed correctly as I am running with 2 turns per year and one of the addons blended into MNM, as I understand it, is a 4tpy addon. The install process offers the choice of installing a 2 or 4 YEARS per turn option. I've installed twice trying each; with either choice the game is still stuck at 2tpy.

There may be a way to verifiy that MNM was fully installed, but the above seems easy and it isn't working.

Advise would be appreciated.

[We shall fwee...Wode]

you have to install the mod switch version of RTRPE 1.9. The normal version doesn't work. hope this helps.

[Akmatov]

Thanks for the advise, actually I did install the mod switch version, though I forgot to mention that in my note - I'll edit that now.

[Maced0n]

Probably you didnt install right

1 Clean RTW 1.5 or BI 1.6
2 Install RTRPE 1.9 M-Sw in that folder u will get 2 shortcuts
3 Install MNM 1.9 in that folder u will get 2 new shortcuts
Also u can play vanila RTW nd BI

Most importand is to be sure that u install in corect folder
ex. C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War
if that is your default RTW folder RTRPE and MNM should be install in that same folder.

[Akmatov]

Thanks a lot for the fast reply MacedOn.

I will be reinstalling tonight. I'm 99.9% positive my install went:

1) Installed RTW v1.0 - 3xCD Activision version - 1xRTW shortcut
2) Installed BI - now RTW v?.? & BI v?.? - +1xBI shortcut
3) Patched BI to v1.6 - now RTW v1.5 & BI v1.6
4) Installed RTRPE v1.9 switch mod version- +1xRTR shortcut +1xBI shortcut
At this point I could play either RTR and BI as a RTRPE version.
I'm sure it was the switch mod version as I specifically wanted to install MNM and knew it needed that version.
5) Installed MNM for RTRPE V1.9 - +1x "BI-MNM" shortcut
At this point I needed the BI CD in the drive when I clicked on the new shortcut, which lead me to the MetroNaval Mod version of RTW, ie starts in 380BC. However, turns were 2tpy. I reinstalled and checked the other typ choice thinking there might have been a typo. No change, 2tpy.

In the installer the choice offered is for either 2 YEARS per turn or 4 YEARS per turn. I assume this is a typo for 2tpy or 4tpy.

Most importand is to be sure that u install in corect folder
ex. C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War
if that is your default RTW folder RTRPE and MNM should be install in that same folder.

Although I usually put games in a seperate folder, I was careful with installing RTW to just go with the default due to the possibilities of confusion with mods. So the install folder was pure vanilla, ie just like you mention.

I will be deleting and reinstalling tonight if I have time, but I think I followed the install correctly.

Is there some way other than the number of turns per year to check easily for a good install?

[Maced0n]

Do you know how to load 4TPY Script?

When you start your game a pop-up will come up and you need to click on show-me how button ,than 4TPY is activated. And the only difference from 2TPY is that now u have 1y in 4 turns ,you cant see nothing visual that will tell you that u have 4TPY. Most important is to load script everythime u load game...

[Akmatov]

Hmm, you are right. I didn't know how to activate the 4tpy; which activation method isn't even mentioned in the readme for the 4tpy addon.

OK, so I double clicked the BI-MNM shortcut and Metro Naval loads and Advisor Girl pops up in the left corner. The 'show me how' button, one of four beside her, is grayed out, but I double left click it anyway - still 2tpy.

I reinstall MNM and make a point to NOT check the box for 2ypt, thus according to the install instructions going with 4ypt. Then everything is as above, to include still 2tpy.

Just to be sure I re-reinstalled MNM and make a point TO check the box for 2ypt. But still the same, 2tpy.

Sigh, too late to do any marathon reinstalling dances, but I don't see what I'm doing wrong. I'm seeing text that says Metro-Naval 1.9B is the version I'm trying to play. This is frustrating.

One other thing, should I somehow be able to play BI with the MNM mod enhancing it also?

[Akmatov]

Do you know how to load 4TPY Script?

When you start your game a pop-up will come up and you need to click on show-me how button ,than 4TPY is activated. . . . Most important is to load script everythime u load game...

Good Morning,

Sitting down and working on this problem fresh in the morning makes a difference.

Actually, the instructions above are wrong.

Once you get 'Victoria - the Advisor Lady' present in the top left corner, you have to FIRST click on her - when she pops up the 'Show Me How' button is grayed out, inactive and useless to click.

Once you click on her central image, you THEN get a script telling you that you are in MetroNaval and that you need to click on the 'Show Me How' button AND the 'Show Me How' button is now active and lit up.

From that point forward, when you enter a new turn/season, Victoria pops up to tell you the Season/Year info and you are good to go forward.

The confusion was just one of those computer things where we know so well what to do, we don't quite know consciously all the key strokes because we do it all the time without thinking about it.

Also, during the Set-Up of Metro-Naval, you need to be sure to NOT check the box beside 2YPT. Obvious, perhaps, but firguring out the secret code on this was confusing enough just wanted to add that tid-bit.

Many thanks Macedon for both putting this interesting mod together and taking the time to help me get it running. Now I'm off to go forth in service of the Republic and kick some barbarian butt.

[Maced0n]

In case if pop up is blinking when u load game click on lady's face.... and continue like on picture.

Sometime when u load saved game pop up didnt come so just click on some city or unit and it will pop up.

[Akmatov]

Thank you VERY much. The above is very helpful and clear.

When I start I have the same Advisor Lady pop up. But what is different is that the 'show me how' button is grayed out from the beginning - whereas your image shows it as live. There is def something not right somewhere, probably with my install - even though it has the Metro Naval screens and identifies itself as being MetroNaval v1.9B.

It will be Friday before I will have the time to mess with things, but I will do a totally new reinstall and see how that works.

Thanks a lot for the help. I really want to get playing