Woot! 30 turns of assassination! Now, Hungary lies in ruins!

**foolfromhell** · September 04, 2007, 01:03 AM

Hungary had an empire stretching from Constantinople to Staufen. From Corinth Poland.

My "puny" empire of England, Northern Spain, Northern Italy, and France would need decades to finish the Kingdom of Hungary.
So, the training of assassins began!
After 30 years of wars in the shadows, the Hungarian bloodline lies in ruins.
The women weep at the feet of their husbands, who were hit with rocks, bitten by snakes, or stabbed in broad daylight.

The Kingdom of Hungary lies in total anarchy. All cities, taken over by squabbling minor kingdoms.

Unfortunately, the Supreme kingdom of Russia (for it IS supreme) can try to expand. The weakened kingdom of the Byzantines can try to recover its former glory, and the tiny kingdom of sicily can try to gain the status of a world power.

Anyone else used assassinations to finish an enemy? I will post a screenshot of the Hungary in anarchy later. I took like 12 assassinations to finish off the Hungarians.

**irishterion** · September 04, 2007, 01:18 AM

excellent man, i love using my assassins , but do you have any tricks to share ? because it's usually quite hard to assassinate a leader of faction for exemple.

**snuggans** · September 04, 2007, 01:36 AM

train your assassins on captains and other easy targets, then save your game before trying it on a leader. if it fails, reload, do something else, then come back and try it again.

**foolfromhell** · September 04, 2007, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by WaynehMarls

train your assassins on captains and other easy targets, then save your game before trying it on a leader. if it fails, reload, do something else, then come back and try it again.

Yeah, it was a few years of buildup and training.
95% chance to kill captains.
I didnt reload once, and Hungary never got more pissed at me. They were my allies for OVER 100 turns. I have then more then 20,000 in cash, and they use it to expand towards me! They take out HRE and are at my doorstep.
Couldnt allow it. Now, everything from Constantinople to Staufen. Everything from Corinth to Poland, is rebel country.

**homefry** · September 04, 2007, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by foolfromhell

Hungary had an empire stretching from Constantinople to Staufen. From Corinth Poland.

My "puny" empire of England, Northern Spain, Northern Italy, and France would need decades to finish the Kingdom of Hungary.
So, the training of assassins began!
After 30 years of wars in the shadows, the Hungarian bloodline lies in ruins.
The women weep at the feet of their husbands, who were hit with rocks, bitten by snakes, or stabbed in broad daylight.

The Kingdom of Hungary lies in total anarchy. All cities, taken over by squabbling minor kingdoms.

Unfortunately, the Supreme kingdom of Russia (for it IS supreme) can try to expand. The weakened kingdom of the Byzantines can try to recover its former glory, and the tiny kingdom of sicily can try to gain the status of a world power.

Anyone else used assassinations to finish an enemy? I will post a screenshot of the Hungary in anarchy later. I took like 12 assassinations to finish off the Hungarians.

Did you reload your game if you failed an assasination atepmt?

If so, it doesn't count.

**scivian** · September 04, 2007, 01:52 AM

Thats how I deal with the Mongols. Just before they arrive I train about 20 assassins and about 10 spys.

**Cyrus the Virus** · September 04, 2007, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by scivian

Thats how I deal with the Mongols. Just before they arrive I train about 20 assassins and about 10 spys.

That sounds quite extraordinary!

**El Hamburglo** · September 04, 2007, 02:02 AM

Sounds like something you'd try once and then regret wasting 30 years of good battle opportunities... but then, so long as its a horse archer faction, its alright

**Armoured Hoplite** · September 04, 2007, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by El Hamburglo

...but then, so long as its a horse archer faction, its alright

Not cool.

A good bust/jab.

...but not cool

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And to the original poster who assasinated the Royal Hungarian family;

Next time you walk by a barrel and you think you see a head popping out...just keep walking

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**MattErickson** · September 04, 2007, 06:27 AM

Assassins are the best! Although I've never used one on a faction leader or a heir. Always counteract and kill me assassins.

**foolfromhell** · September 04, 2007, 12:11 PM

Ahh.
All the leftover rebel cities are filled with silver chevron+ professional armies...

**Dogman** · September 04, 2007, 03:15 PM

I've done it twice now in my current campaign as the English. Finished off the Scots and the French using assassins, and I'm working on killing off Milan. France was a ***** to finish off though, as eveyr single turn they'd replace the family member I had just killed, so it wasn't until I trained up 2 more assassins that I could take out their 3rd family member, the heir, and the leader (in that order) all in one turn. Their last city, Bern, ended with a full stack army garrisoned in it from the resulting rebel armies. As an aside, how France managed to field 3 and a half full stack armies consistently and recoup their losses every turn with just a castle and the kings purse providing income is beyond me.

**foolfromhell** · September 04, 2007, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Dogman

I've done it twice now in my current campaign as the English. Finished off the Scots and the French using assassins, and I'm working on killing off Milan. France was a ***** to finish off though, as eveyr single turn they'd replace the family member I had just killed, so it wasn't until I trained up 2 more assassins that I could take out their 3rd family member, the heir, and the leader (in that order) all in one turn. Their last city, Bern, ended with a full stack army garrisoned in it from the resulting rebel armies. As an aside, how France managed to field 3 and a half full stack armies consistently and recoup their losses every turn with just a castle and the kings purse providing income is beyond me.

I think the AI cheats.

Are King's purses different for every faction?

**wkndwrrr** · September 04, 2007, 07:29 PM

I personally am very happy about how one of my assassination campaigns came out during my current campagin as Egypt; I wiped out five generations of Turkish leadership (two sultans and three faction heirs) over the course of my war with them, not to mention countless diplomats, merchants, captains, and Imams.

My Sultan has max authority, max dread and the epithet 'the Tyrant' because of this wonderful strategem.

**MattErickson** · September 04, 2007, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by foolfromhell

I think the AI cheats.

Are King's purses different for every faction?

Yes, it varies from faction to faction, from 500-1500 I believe.

**foolfromhell** · September 05, 2007, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by MattErickson

Yes, it varies from faction to faction, from 500-1500 I believe.

Well, Russia and England, as I have observed, have 2500 each.

**Spurius** · September 05, 2007, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by foolfromhell

I think the AI cheats.

Are King's purses different for every faction?

Check the campaign scripts: if the factions are losing bigtime and make no money, the AI indeed gets freeby troops and extra cash - and I mean every turn. Money scripts and garrisoning scripts straight from the start.

**Sitarus Originalus PM-30+** · September 05, 2007, 03:04 PM

as HRE i once had about 100s of assasins and many spies and i destroyed scotland, england, denmark, poland and rusia with them .... (ofcourse i had 100s assasins but not at the same time, ... i still have a screen somewhere with 20 assassins in england =)

**J.B.** · September 05, 2007, 03:20 PM

I once headhunted the entire College of Cardinals. From Scotland to Egypt, Russia to the Moor countires. And finally the last cardinal, Miguel of Portugal, met his end in the new world