Adding experience points to ships for different port levels

[irishron]

I have tried to add experience points to the different ship models for the different port levels. I am playing as Rome if this makes any difference to the equation. I was able to change the ones for Barbarian, Eastern, Egyptian, and Greek cultures without a crash. I try to give the Roman bireme a +1 upgrade in Shipwright and just as soon as it is built, ctd. No show error message. Any clues?

[Squid]

There's a nasty CTD with rome, it works as follows:

For example, if in barracks level 1 you have unit A with 0 experience and in barracks level 2 you have unit A with 1 experience. The CTD will happen if you have the first level of barracks, and the second level of barracks will be completed, and you also have unit A being completed the same turn as the barracks upgrade.

[irishron]

There's a nasty CTD with rome, it works as follows:

For example, if in barracks level 1 you have unit A with 0 experience and in barracks level 2 you have unit A with 1 experience. The CTD will happen if you have the first level of barracks, and the second level of barracks will be completed, and you also have unit A being completed the same turn as the barracks upgrade.

I can confirm the ship one. I had a shipwright which builds level 1 biremes complete at the same time I have a level 0 bireme being built next. This caused a ctd. I removed the bireme and the shipwright finished without a ctd. Why?

[Squid]

Problem with the engine, nothing that can be done about it, except don't change experience on a unit from building level to building level.

[irishron]

Problem with the engine, nothing that can be done about it, except don't change experience on a unit from building level to building level.

Instead of using the building tree, have you tried using ancillaries?

[Squid]

But that has no effect on any unit except the general's units (the character with the ancillary), and there is no experience attribute that an ancillary can effect.

[irishron]

Is there any other way to make this work?

[Squid]

Is there any other way to make this work?

Please read post #4 above, it is hardcoded and cannot be changed, it can only be worked around either by not giving experience bonuses to units at higher building levels, or having multiple copies of the same unit as suggested by Aradan, both avoid the problem but both have their significant down sides.

[irishron]

Thank you to both of you.

[makanyane]

Just spotted this and wanted to add a note to it:

The problem with adding experience bonuses to units by building level does not exist in Barbarian Invasion (I'm not disputing that it does in RTW though, quite a few odd things are different between the two .exes).

Barbarian Invasion does still have the problem if you add experience bonuses to ships though. (which came as a bit of a surprise to some of us who'd been merrily using exp upgrades in barracks on mods for years with BI)....

[Aradan]

You could try different EDU entries, where the second one will already have the +1 incorporated into its stats... But that would make you unable to merge the two different ships, as they will be considered different unit types.