End Fluoridation, Say 500 Physicians, Dentists, Scientists And Environmentalists

[Lunar4]

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/79326.php

n a statement released recently, over 600 professionals are urging Congress to stop water fluoridation until Congressional hearings are conducted. They cite new scientific evidence that fluoridation, long promoted to fight tooth decay, is ineffective and has serious health risks. (http://www.fluorideaction.org/statem...gust.2007.html)

Signers include a Nobel Prize winner, three members of the prestigious 2006 National Research Council (NRC) panel that reported on fluoride's toxicology, two officers in the Union representing professionals at EPA headquarters, the President of the International Society of Doctors for the Environment, and hundreds of medical, dental, academic, scientific and environmental professionals, worldwide.

Signer Dr. Arvid Carlsson, winner of the 2000 Nobel Prize for Medicine, says, "Fluoridation is against all principles of modern pharmacology. It's really obsolete."

Paul Connett, PhD, Executive Director of the Fluoride Action Network (FAN), announced that an Online Action Petition to Congress in support of the Professionals' Statement will soon be available at FAN's web site, http://www.fluorideaction.org.

"The NRC report dramatically changed scientific understanding of fluoride's health risks," says Connett. "Government officials who continue to promote fluoridation must testify under oath as to why they are ignoring the powerful evidence of harm in the NRC report," he added.

An Assistant NY State Attorney General calls the report "the most up-to-date expert authority on the health effects of fluoride exposure."

The Professionals' Statement also references:

-- The new American Dental Association policy recommending infant formula NOT be prepared with fluoridated water.

-- The CDC's concession that the predominant benefit of fluoride is topical not systemic.

-- CDC data showing that dental fluorosis, caused by fluoride over-exposure, now impacts one third of American children.

-- Major research indicating little difference in decay rates between fluoridated and non-fluoridated communities.

-- A Harvard study indicating a possible link between fluoridation and bone cancer.

-- The silicofluoride chemicals used for fluoridation are contaminated industrial waste and have never been FDA- approved for human ingestion.

The Environmental Working Group (EWG), a DC watchdog, revealed that a Harvard professor concealed the fluoridation/bone cancer connection for three years. EWG President Ken Cook states, "It is time for the US to recognize that fluoridation has serious risks that far outweigh any minor benefits, and unlike many other environmental issues, it's as easy to end as turning off a valve at the water plant."

Wow. This comes as a suprise to me. I've been brushing my teeth like a good little american all these years just to find out it might give me Bone Cancer? What the **** is with that

[Gary88]

its not a case of the stuff in your toothpaste (it doesn't specifically mention it) but the fact its in your drinking water....actually wtf is up with that

[ajm317]

Fluoride has been in American drinking water for decades now.

The theory is that it prevents tooth decay.

[Hereward]

That's why I've only used fluoride-free toothpaste for the last 2 years and bought an expensive-as-hell reverse osmosis system to thoroughly filter my water.

They supposedly used to use that stuff in rat poisen.
These days you couldn't pay me to put that toxic ******** in my body.

The saddest thing is, walk through wal-mart someday, go down the aisle with water jugs, find the Nursery Water gallons, sold for use with babys/toddlers. Right on the front label it proudly exclaims the fact that they load it with hexasilicic fluoride. Are we americans not ignorantly poisening our very babys?

(btw, people can call me paranoid/extreme/etc., but I've never felt better, and my teeth are whiter and feel healthier than ever.)

[Gary88]

i heard theres also dangerous amounts of arsenic too

[ajm317]

i heard theres also dangerous amounts of arsenic too

But that's not there on purpose.

That's just good old fashioned American pollution.

Fluoride is actively added.

[Cluny the Scourge]

I know it causes contamination of our precious bodily fluids. It's the most dangerous Communist conspiracy ever devised. I first became aware of this during the physical act of love. This situation has not repeated itself, I may assure you - women sense my power and seek the vital essence. Now, I do not avoid women, but I do deny them my essence.

[Roy Batty]

I know it causes contamination of our precious bodily fluids. It's the most dangerous Communist conspiracy ever devised. I first became of this during the physical act of love. This situation has not repeated itself, I may assure you - women sense my power and seek the vital essence. Now, I do not avoid women, but I do deny them my essence.

I was raised drinking water from an artesian spring well. When I moved away from home and went to University, I had to get used to fluoride-laced city water. i.e. I had diarrhea for three months.

It is actually a poison, which is why it is good for killing bacteria in your mouth. But the only reason that it is in our drinking water is because it is a byproduct of aluminum smelting. Rather than paying out money to have this toxic material properly disposed of, companies instead receive money from local governments to have this **** pumped into drinking water. Supposedly it is a win-win situation for all parties, but they said that about DDT, too.

[Simetrical]

The general agreement up to now has still been that fluoride in drinking water is beneficial to the overall health of the population. There's no conspiracy that's been forcing the large majority of dentists, doctors, and scientists to agree that it's a good idea for decades. It may turn out in retrospect that it was a bad idea, but the evidence for that is not yet solid. Let's not get worked up here.

They supposedly used to use that stuff in rat poisen.

They also use oxygen in rat poison. Fluorine is an element that's used for a very wide variety of things. Chlorine is just as nasty in elemental form, and it's part of table salt.

(btw, people can call me paranoid/extreme/etc., but I've never felt better, and my teeth are whiter and feel healthier than ever.)

Anecdotal evidence is less than worthless for judging whether a substance is beneficial or harmful.

It is actually a poison, which is why it is good for killing bacteria in your mouth.

Not true. It works by altering your teeth:

Fluoride's caries-preventive properties initially were attributed to changes in enamel during tooth development because of the association between fluoride and cosmetic changes in enamel and a belief that fluoride incorporated into enamel during tooth development would result in a more acid-resistant mineral. However, laboratory and epidemiologic research suggests that fluoride prevents dental caries predominately after eruption of the tooth into the mouth, and its actions primarily are topical for both adults and children (1). These mechanisms include 1) inhibition of demineralization, 2) enhancement of remineralization, and 3) inhibition of bacterial activity in dental plaque (1).

Enamel and dentin are composed of mineral crystals (primarily calcium and phosphate) embedded in an organic protein/lipid matrix. Dental mineral is dissolved readily by acid produced by cariogenic bacteria when they metabolize fermentable carbohydrates. Fluoride present in solution at low levels, which becomes concentrated in dental plaque, can substantially inhibit dissolution of tooth mineral by acid.

Fluoride enhances remineralization by adsorbing to the tooth surface and attracting calcium ions present in saliva. Fluoride also acts to bring the calcium and phosphate ions together and is included in the chemical reaction that takes place, producing a crystal surface that is much less soluble in acid than the original tooth mineral (1).

Fluoride from topical sources such as fluoridated drinking water is taken up by cariogenic bacteria when they produce acid. Once inside the cells, fluoride interferes with enzyme activity of the bacteria and the control of intracellular pH. This reduces bacterial acid production, which directly reduces the dissolution rate of tooth mineral (19).

(Source: Centers for Disease Control) Otherwise bacteria would just gain resistance to it, as they do to antibiotics, and it would quickly become worthless.

But the only reason that it is in our drinking water is because it is a byproduct of aluminum smelting. Rather than paying out money to have this toxic material properly disposed of, companies instead receive money from local governments to have this **** pumped into drinking water.

Also false. Look at any history of water fluoridation: it started with the observation of a dentist in 1901 that a certain population had stained teeth but very few cavities. He investigated and figured out that it was something in the water. The NIH eventually established a group to investigate it, and concluded fluorine was the cause of the benefit. In 1945, controlled studies were done on cities, adding fluorine to the water of the experimental but not the control group to see what effect it would have, and sure enough, cavities decreased in the experimental group. This eventually led to most of the United States adopting water fluoridation. Industry was not involved anywhere in this, although of course they probably do supply the fluorine on the open market for some tiny annual cost (it's not very expensive stuff).

Supposedly it is a win-win situation for all parties, but they said that about DDT, too.

It was under a year ago that the WHO and USAID announced that DDT would be used as one of its three main tools to combat malaria, you know.

[Roy Batty]

My source is an anthropology professor. Serves me right for not checking the facts before posting as though I were in the know. I guess I should have asked a chemistry teacher.

[Gary88]

But that's not there on purpose.

i should hope not

[Richard]

Interesting read Simetrical

[Niles Crane]

Meh, my teeth look great.

[Kiljan Arslan]

Floride isa a communist conspiracy to poision our water didn't you know?!

[LSJ]

Nah, its a communist conspiracy to give Americans clean teeth. Who knows what horrible things will result form shiny teeth?

Anyways the only thing that worries me is the possible link between fluoride in the water and bone cancer... "Fluoride" may be good at the dentist's, but it should not be consumed. When you wash your mouth with the stuff, or toothpaste, which contains some, you always spit it out. If you don't drink the stuff to make your teeth better, why would you add it to drinking water? A waste it seems...

[Simetrical]

The point is that many people who don't regularly visit dentists or brush their teeth do drink substantial quantities of tap water, directly or indirectly. Of course the amount of fluoride that can be delivered this way is relatively small. If you're using toothpaste or a dentist's fluoride paste, you get much stronger concentration, which would be harmful to swallow on a regular basis.

[kaleus Khron]

Fluoride in water is mainly for babies, and docile populations.

[Rush Limbaugh]

Cant believe I cant find the clip of this . oh well. From Dr Strangelove . The real truth behind Fluoridation.

Ripper: Mandrake?
Mandrake: Yes, Jack?
Ripper: Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?
Mandrake: Well, I can't say I have.
Ripper: Vodka, that's what they drink, isn't it? Never water?
Mandrake: Well, I-I believe that's what they drink, Jack, yes.
Ripper: On no account will a Commie ever drink water, and not without good reason.
Mandrake: Oh, eh, yes. I, uhm, can't quite see what you're getting at, Jack.
Ripper: Water, that's what I'm getting at, water. Mandrake, water is the source of all life. Seven-tenths of this earth's surface is water. Why, do you realize that seventy percent of you is water?
Mandrake: Uh, uh, Good Lord!
Ripper: And as human beings, you and I need fresh, pure water to replenish our precious bodily fluids.
Mandrake: Yes. (he begins to chuckle nervously)
Ripper: Are you beginning to understand?
Mandrake: Yes. (more laughter)
Ripper: Mandrake. Mandrake, have you never wondered why I drink only distilled water, or rain water, and only pure-grain alcohol?
Mandrake: Well, it did occur to me, Jack, yes.
Ripper: Have you ever heard of a thing called fluoridation. Fluoridation of water?
Mandrake: Uh? Yes, I-I have heard of that, Jack, yes. Yes.
Ripper: Well, do you know what it is?
Mandrake: No, no I don't know what it is, no.
Ripper: Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?

Do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream? Ice cream, Mandrake? Children's ice cream!...You know when fluoridation began?...1946. 1946, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

He first developed his theory and became aware of the international Communist plot during a strenuous bout of physical love-making in which he felt sexual anxiety. He blames his male impotency and sexual inadequacy on the Russian conspiracy. From then on, he hoards his bodily fluids (his "life essence") and keeps them for himself [Ripper will not or cannot ejaculate during sex]:

I first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love...Yes, a profound sense of fatigue, a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I-I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence. I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women, er, women sense my power, and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake...but I do deny them my essence.

General Ripper's defending troops surrender Burpelson. Mandrake still thinks there's time to "recall the wing." But Ripper strides through the debris in his office, using his machine gun as a crutch, to a chair where he sits and moans: "Those boys were like my children, Mandrake. Now they let me down." Symbolically, his cigar has gone out, hanging limply in his mouth. Man to man, Mandrake consoles Jack with talk of his own water-drinking habits and resultant virility.

Do I look all rancid and clotted? You look at me, Jack. Eh? Look, eh? And I drink a lot of water, you know. I'm what you might call a water man, Jack - that's what I am. And I can swear to you, my boy, swear to you, that there's nothing wrong with my bodily fluids. Not a thing, Jackie.

The funniest movie ever made.

[Kiljan Arslan]

One rep for you Rush that was the best part in the movie!

[Rush Limbaugh]

hat was the best part in the movie!

So many great scenes but that has always been my favorite especially when he says

I first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love...Yes, a profound sense of fatigue, a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I-I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence. I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women, er, women sense my power, and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake...but I do deny them my essence.

I think thats the funniest line ever delivered. Im so pissed I cant find the clip.