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    Default Gunpowder units for Byzantium ?

    Hi,

    I just started a campaign with byzantium. I'd like to know whether it's possible to hire gunpowder units in later times.
    I've seen that byzantium has only this primitive canon an no infantry with guns.
    I think there are mercenary arquebusiers in MTW2. Is it possible to hire them as byzantium ?

    Greetings,
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    Sorry for mistakes in grammar and orthography - english isn't my native language

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    Default Re: Gunpowder units for Byzantium ?

    it says at the beginning(when you choose factions) its weakness is that it has no gunpowder units.

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    Default Re: Gunpowder units for Byzantium ?

    Yes, of course. It says that it has no (own) gunpowder units - but this doesn't imply that It can't recruit mercenaries with guns.

    Therefore my question is still unanswered.

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    Default Re: Gunpowder units for Byzantium ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amaris View Post
    Therefore my question is still unanswered.
    Byzantium cannot recruit their own arquebusiers/musketeers from buildings but they can hire the available gunpowder mercenaries..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amaris View Post
    Yes, of course. It says that it has no (own) gunpowder units - but this doesn't imply that It can't recruit mercenaries with guns.

    Therefore my question is still unanswered.
    You'll find lot's of mercenary ribaults (those organ style guns) and mercenary arquebusiers aswell as swiss guards in central europe and france,you can also recruit mercenary elephants (with muskets or archers on top) on the Baghdad area.

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    Default Re: Gunpowder units for Byzantium ?

    Quote Originally Posted by HBBB View Post
    You'll find lot's of mercenary ribaults (those organ style guns) and mercenary arquebusiers aswell as swiss guards in central europe and france,you can also recruit mercenary elephants (with muskets or archers on top) on the Baghdad area.
    Ah, thanks - that's what I wanted to hear


    Maybe with editing or a mod you can get Byzantium their guns back
    I already thought about that and read a modding-tutorial about adding units from one faction to another....but I didn't understand it completely.
    Maybe I try it again when I reach the era when gunpowder units become available (I'm still at the beginning of my current campaign).

    Greetings,
    Amaris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amaris View Post
    Ah, thanks - that's what I wanted to hear


    I already thought about that and read a modding-tutorial about adding units from one faction to another....but I didn't understand it completely.
    Maybe I try it again when I reach the era when gunpowder units become available (I'm still at the beginning of my current campaign).

    Greetings,
    Amaris
    I never seemed to crave for gunpowder units while playing as Byzantium, they've got so many amazing units by itself that i tend to ignore artillery completelly, all you need is horders of katrapachoi, varagians, byz guards and vardatoriais to conquer the entire world without much trouble

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    Default Re: Gunpowder units for Byzantium ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amaris View Post
    Ah, thanks - that's what I wanted to hear


    I already thought about that and read a modding-tutorial about adding units from one faction to another....but I didn't understand it completely.
    Maybe I try it again when I reach the era when gunpowder units become available (I'm still at the beginning of my current campaign).

    Greetings,
    Amaris
    There's an easy way, if you want to add already made units into to game, like mercenary arquebusiers or musketeers.

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    Default Re: Gunpowder units for Byzantium ?

    Maybe with editing or a mod you can get Byzantium their guns back. In the Kingdoms expansion I'm pretty sure they even have flamethrower units.

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    I thought the elephants had cannons on top of them that wrecked havoc to all in their path and left a wake of death and destruction. Or is that only for the Timurids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattErickson View Post
    I thought the elephants had cannons on top of them that wrecked havoc to all in their path and left a wake of death and destruction. Or is that only for the Timurids?
    I can't remember exactly what guns they use on their backs,i supose you can also recruit their cannon counter-parts, i mostly used them for charging porpuses

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    Default Re: Gunpowder units for Byzantium ?

    Really? I thought all elephant units had mounted cannons on their upper parts. Guess I was mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattErickson View Post
    Really? I thought all elephant units had mounted cannons on their upper parts. Guess I was mistaken.
    Nope, i clearly remember some mercs having arquebusiers on top of them.

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    Default Re: Gunpowder units for Byzantium ?

    Cool, now if only you could mount a cannon atop a horse....

    They perfect hit and run skirmisher!
    Ideal for sieges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattErickson View Post
    Cool, now if only you could mount a cannon atop a horse....

    They perfect hit and run skirmisher!
    Ideal for sieges.
    I'm still dreaming for the day where some good human being decides to make the ultimate unit:

    Gothic armour wearing cammels with basilicks on their backs. They're also being ridden by Genghis Khann himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBBB View Post
    I'm still dreaming for the day where some good human being decides to make the ultimate unit:

    Gothic armour wearing cammels with basilicks on their backs. They're also being ridden by Genghis Khann himself.
    Haha, That'll be my next project!

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