Best way to get the cpu to marian reform

[Timmius]

I was wondering if there's any way to get the computer to speed up the time it takes to get marian reforms. I´d like to fight against marian legions instead of just pricipes, hastati etc..

[MasterOfThessus]

Cheat?

Increase population in cities and then build the palaces....

[Timmius]

Cheat?

Increase population in cities and then build the palaces....

Ehm.. no. I mean I want to play against romans. Not with them. I´ve never played marian reformed Romans before, because the CPU won´t let the cities grow big enough.

Can I set the reform date somwhere maybe?

[Preskinn]

What is the last word on when the Reforms trigger anyway?

[Timmius]

I believe it's hard-coded. Set to 220 b.c. or something. Or before when there's an imperial palace in a Roman city other than Rome itself.

[Preskinn]

I believe it's hard-coded. Set to 220 b.c. or something. Or before when there's an imperial palace in a Roman city other than Rome itself.

Ah, so with RTRE (RTW 1.5 or above) you can trigger it by building a imperial palace in an other city? And from there there is a % chanse?
Otherwhise it hapens 220 BC sharp?
Because I have heard that it was two palaces sometimes, and sometimes that you have to have a certain amount of population...

[MasterOfThessus]

thats what I ment, there is a console command that increases pupulation, as well as a command for building certaint buildings

[Timmius]

thats what I ment, there is a console command that increases pupulation, as well as a command for building certaint buildings

Any idea on how to do that?

[Winter]

Just hit the ~ key on the campaign map screen

then type "add_population Rome 4000"

of course, without the quotes, and substituting Rome for any other city.

[Timmius]

Just hit the ~ key on the campaign map screen

then type "add_population Rome 4000"

of course, without the quotes, and substituting Rome for any other city.

and an imperial palace?

[Winter]

and an imperial palace?

I don't think there's a console command to make them build the palace, but once you give them 24k + citizens they'll do it themselves.

I guess you could do "process_cq Rome" every turn, but you would have no way of knowing if they have the palace in the queue.

[joerd9]

In RTRPE you need to have an imperial palace in any italian city except Rome herself. In a seleucid campaign I waited until 200 and nothing had happened (and I was sooo looking forward to my legeonarioi). Capua (which is usually always the first city to reach huge status) didn't get over 21000. I then used the add_population Capua 4000 cheat and the next turn the process_cq Capua cheat. That fixed it for me IIRC. The turn after that the reforms happened.

So:
1. add_population to the roman city which is closest to 24.000
2. wait 1 turn (for the romans to issue the building order for the imperial palace)
3. process_cq <cityname>
4. wait 1 turn et voilà!

[Timmius]

In RTRPE you need to have an imperial palace in any italian city except Rome herself. In a seleucid campaign I waited until 200 and nothing had happened (and I was sooo looking forward to my legeonarioi). Capua (which is usually always the first city to reach huge status) didn't get over 21000. I then used the add_population Capua 4000 cheat and the next turn the process_cq Capua cheat. That fixed it for me IIRC. The turn after that the reforms happened.

So:
1. add_population to the roman city which is closest to 24.000
2. wait 1 turn (for the romans to issue the building order for the imperial palace)
3. process_cq <cityname>
4. wait 1 turn et voilà!

I added enough population to Capua. But the process_cp doesn't seem to do anything. What is it supposed to do exectly?

//edit: nvm. Found it out myself. It completes the current building. Took the cpu a while to understand to build an imperial palace. But it worked \o/

[Companion Cavalry]

what are marian reforms?

[^Gr8^Xander]

what are marian reforms?

That's when the Roman army changes from a civilians called into service when at war army, to a professional fighting force.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Reforms

[Winter]

Glad you got it. Have fun fighting the legions with your phalanxes/hoplites/warbands/horsearchers/cataphracts/elephants.

[joerd9]

Yes it could take the AI a couple of more turns to actually figure out that they CAN build the imperial palace now...

Glad it helped.