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    Default [RS AAR] Peace and Prosperity - An Observer RS AAR

    The Ultimate Battle between Rome and Germania started
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    Romans are getting trampled into the dust!
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    I'm a bit bored right now, but also not in the mood for a real campaign, so I thought I'd pick a small unimportant faction, retreat to an island and look what the AI does without player intervention.
    I'm posting it in this subforum cause RTR brought me back to RTW and to this forum (and because RS doens't have a AAR subforum).

    I decided to use the greeks, seems to me the only possible candidate. I first tried to gift my 2 mainland cities to Epirus, but the AI in all it's retard-ness refused every time ... Somebody should really explain the AI what the word "gift" means
    I had to edit the files and gave Athens and Argonesus to Epirus (to keep Macedon occupied), and gave myself Knossos so I didn't have a border with anybody. About 5 CTD's later I managed to do it
    I'm playing Roma Surrectum 1.10c on Huge and H/M. I never played on huge before, my comp can't handle it, but I don't intend to fight anyway. Let's just hope the AI won't have a bright moment in it's pitiful life and learn how to use ships

    I will get trade rights with everybody and sent some spies to hotspots, but that will be all the contact I will have with the other factions. I will post an update every 10 or 20 years.


    My starting position. I disbanded all my troops and ships except 2 garrison units per city. I hopefully won't need any army.



    After 10 years - W 270 BC


    Macedon and Epirus are at war since 279BC but haven't done anything but staring at eachother. Rome took the two italian free people towns and are now building up their forces. Gaul is happily expanding like always, Germania and Getae still haven't got the guts to go out into the big wide world. Meanwhile Sarmatia (or Scythia?) is waiting to get killed by Parthia. Unsurprisinlgy Syracuse is getting stomped by Carthage, I doubt they'll survive the next 5 or so years.

    The Seleucid Empire finally attacked the Egyptians, and are gaining the upper hand. They have taken many nearby free towns and are also sieging the egyptian asia minor holdings. They are on their best way to a big monster. Tough luck for their weak neighbors
    Last edited by Exekutor; October 01, 2007 at 10:38 AM.

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    Syracuse get's crushed in 267BC, seems like I was a bit too optimistic with my 5 year guess ...


    My tiny 3 city empire get's proclaimed as the richest nation on this world ... But only 1 year later it seems like the germans, a bunch of smelly barbarians who dwell in the middle of nowhere, deserve this title, very odd indeed. Maybe somebody should check if these scribes are sober ...


    After about 15 years of cold war with Macedon, Epirus grows some balls and they make the first move in 265BC by sieging Larissa.


    The romans are on the move also and are having a party around Tarentum. Things get out of control and a mob of drunken romans wreck havoc throughout the city. Pyrrhus is not amused ...


    The roman legions don't like peace much, so they decide to kill some gauls in northern Italy. Many bored romans join them on their march.


    The World 260BC

    The red X's shows where two faction are warring. The arrows show their expansion.
    The Seleucid Empire kicks ass left and right, crushing both Parthia and Egypt. Carthage, Germania, Sarmatia, Bosphorus, Armenia and Dacia(?) are expanding into rebels territory and are not at war with another faction.
    Pergamum has some tough time. Pontus still has 6 full armies and already took 2 cities from them. I was really surprised seeing Pontus doing so well.


    In Greece there is a stalement between Macedon and Epirus. Larissa is changing hand every 2 or 3 turns and somehow Corinths walls seem to be unbreachable for epirot (sp?) armies.


    The Gauls delivered an hell of an rush until now, but they have overextended themselves and are now losing the war against iberians and romans.


    The financial ranking, Romans are first (what a surprise ...), Germans are second (very strange) and I am third. I have so many governors, they are all sitting in Rhodes and twiddling their thumbs ... they seem to like it decadent bastards


    The Overall Ranking, I'm the first from the buttom
    5 - Free People, 4 - Gaul, 3 - Rome, 2 - Carthage, 1 - Seleucid.
    The Seleucid are getting monstrous, as strong as second and third together. Pontus and Armenia will get a nice visit when Egypt and Parthia is gone

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    Nice mate!!

    Keep it up!!

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    Ugh, they need to sort that mini map out.. Otherwise looks like a cool map.

    Good idea for an AAR!

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    What do you mean, sort that mini map out? (BTW, cool AAR!)

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    Thanks guys and the next update is already here.

    Now I know the secret of the seleucid success ... how the hell do they get so much experience? Are they actually retraining their units?


    If you ask yourself why so many cities are still independant, they just know how deterrence works. BTW I want some of those cataphracts


    At 258BC the fun is over for Pontus. Both Bosphorans and Armenians gang up on them.


    Gold ressource + Mines+1 + Inventor (+20%) + Mining ingenieur (+25%) + Miner (+10%) = reclaiming the title of richest nation. Bah, take that filthy romans and smelly germans



    Bosphorans ran amok and first enslaved Pontus, then Getae. In the end everything stays the same, I guess protectorates don't work anymore...


    In 254 BC romans have some vacation in Gaul, they like it and decide to stay for a little longer.


    I really shouldn't have build a temple of Demeter in Kydonia, it's now even bigger than Rhodes. I only have sewers there, and I need city plumbing to build an Imperial Palace ... that's gonna take a while.


    The World at 250BC


    Let's start with a look at the Greeks. Kydonia is at 26k, Knossos 20k and Rhodes will reach 24k pop next turn. Don't ask me how I make so much money
    Egypt is as good as gone, let's see where the seleucid wreak havoc next. Germania has awakened and is expanding nicely into nearby rebel territory. Sarmatia is still a bit scared of leaving it's territory. The war between Epirus and Macedon still rages on, Macedon has a bigger military but seems to like to conquer rebel cities more than fighting with Epirus.


    Parthians are as good as gone too, that's about the last army they got.


    Carthage has now almost complete control over northern Africa, the last two cities will fall soon too. They started a war with the Iberians. Although the Iberians where pushing the gauls back, they still suffered big casualties and have maybe 2 armies left, which are now marching to meet the carthagian intruders. The front with Gaul is silent.




    Romans are happily expanding not only into Gaul territory, but also into Illyria. Germans parked a big army next to Avruticum, but haven't declared war (yet).


    Getae is left with one little settlement and about 5 or more bosporan full stacks are already on the way



    Pontus is really screwed, Armenia kicked their asses alone. Pergamum took a little break and is now ready for some revenge. Three-front wars are never a good idea

    I put the minimap into the pics for a better orientation. Especially those barbarian towns are really hard to remember.
    Last edited by Exekutor; September 02, 2007 at 09:22 AM.

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    I mean I don't like the look of the mini map. I prefer no borders, but it's not important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solaris View Post
    I mean I don't like the look of the mini map. I prefer no borders, but it's not important.
    Oh, I stumbled over that option during install. I didn't really know how it would look like so I choose the familiar. Can someone show me how it looks without borders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exekutor View Post
    Oh, I stumbled over that option during install. I didn't really know how it would look like so I choose the familiar. Can someone show me how it looks without borders?
    Heres one of the early stages of a Macedonian campaign of mine,


    Buuuut, with RS2, we have a new map, and newer better faction colours too.

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    Cool thing

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    It does look better. Can I change the borders during the game? I just gonna try it and see if it works
    Heres the next update till 240BC.

    These Gauls have a nice King, a pity they will need a new one soon ... People seem to get much older in RS, my faction leader died with 69.


    Rhodos is now a huge city. The Imperial Palace lets me build exactly one new building (large stone walls) and gives me less tax income than before ... I don't really see a reason to build them except you're Roman and want the Reforms.


    My governors are getting really decadent, what is he thinking he was doing his whole life?


    In 244BC the last getaen town falls, the Bosporans give them a nice leaving present and exterminate the city I am starting to like these guys


    The inhabitantes of Memphis are getting insolent and kick out the seleucid occupiers ... worst timing in history ever.



    Can anybody tell me where Byzacium (no, not Byzantium) is and why a get this message?


    OMFG! This calls for a celebration.
    Ptollies are making a naval invasion on Sidon with 2 stacks ... oh well, it's the thought that counts



    The World at 240BC


    Just finished building dockyards, I think thats the second time I ever see them lol.
    Seleucid are finished with Egypt and seem to ignore Parthia for the time being. Now they are heading into the steppes to kill some Sarmatians.


    Romans are mooping up the rest of the gauls, they already have declared war on the Iberians. Carthage is besieging the last free african city. Their war with Iberia wasn't going so good, but now that Rome joins, the Iberians are doomed. Stupid carthagians, stop chasing ghost in the african desert and send your armies to Spain for an epic war with Rome. Now that would be awesome


    Since it's fun to kick somebody who is already lying on the floor, the germans started to get some gaul territory before Rome get's all. They are also expanding into the north-east.


    Pergamum are the biggest cowards ever, they have 6 or 7 full stacks and haven't done anything at all in the last 10 years. Armenia is ready to finish off Pontus once and for all.


    Bosporans are spreading like a cancer and are now heading towards the two free cities near Byzantium.



    Macedon has awakened at last and gave Epirus a good beating with their superior military. They took Apollonia and Larissa from Epirus, Dyrhaccium (sp) and Delphi from the rebels. Macedon now has the upper hand and should be able to finish off Epirus soon.
    Since most rebel territory is conquered and they now have to turn on eachother, I hope we will soon see some Total WAR
    Last edited by Exekutor; September 03, 2007 at 09:18 AM.

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    Wow nice AAR, keep it up! And as always, Roma Victor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter View Post
    Wow nice AAR, keep it up! And as always, Roma Victor!
    Thanks
    Romans are in a delicate position right now. Macedon will finish off Epirus soon, Bosporans and Germans don't have anywhere to expand anymore. If all three gang up on Rome, I doubt they would stand a chance. But I think (and hope) the endgame will be between the Seleucid and the Roman Empire.

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    The campaign is picking up steam. 5 or 6 superpowers have risen and it's all gearing up for a massive slugfest

    237BC, Armenia finishes off Pontus by exterminating their last city. Extermination is really "in" right now.


    And another one kicks the bucket, this time Epirus (235BC).


    Macedon now shifts his attention to the last free greek cities. A massive military build-up on the Peloponnes (sp?) occurs. They decide to do a little Zerg-Rush ... sometimes the easiest solution is the best



    The World at 230BC

    Bosporans and Germans are at war since almost a decade, at the beginning it was a slugfest in which neither side could gain the upper hand, but Germania won the war of attrition and is now conquering them. Macedon just declared war against the Bosporans too. TSE aren't doing much at the moment, just a little half-hearted war with Sarmatia, they still ignore Parthia.


    Both Macedon and Armenia ganged up on Pergamum, which is now down to one city. There is a little disagreement who should get it.



    Gauls are down to one continental settlement, while Rome seems to be a little bored of barbarians. Carthage used the roman diversion and conquered most of Iberia. Many of their armies are searching the african desert for whatever strange reasons. They only have 3 stacks in Iberia, Rome won't even noticed stomping over them if they don't start to get some more troops over to Iberia for a nice Punic War.



    1. TSE, 2. Rome 3.Carthage, 4. Macedon, 5. Germania
    Somehow TSE is declining without fighting any real enemy lol. Rome did a hell of a job and already has the strongest military. Germans had a tough time with the Bosporans, but they have now broken their back. Macedon has high ambitions and is ready to show some muscles.


    At least in something I'm the best I just toppled the 900k mark.

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    This is good. I wonder what will happen next.
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    For some reason i just can get enough of this. Keep it up!

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    Let's start this update with some hilarious news from Cyprus (229BC). Ptollies managed to bite the dust without any external help. The first time I see a faction destroyed because of old age. Nice work


    Rome and Carthage are now officialy at war. But Romans are only sending 2-3 stacks at once into Spain, which gives Carthage some time to get their armies from Africa and Sicily.


    Some archievements of my little greeks



    Rest In Pieces Iberia and Pergamum (224BC)



    The World at 220BC

    TSE isn't doing anything, I'm starting to think their AI is broken
    Both Macedon and Armenia are picking apart the Bosporans. Germania is still at war with the Bosporans, but aren't doing anything but expanding into the last rebel settlements.


    The War between Carthage and Rome is still undecided, but Carthage is slowly running out of armies and needs much more time to get reinforcement into Spain than Rome.


    The once fierce Gauls have settled in Britannia, and do look a bit scared about their new neighbors.


    1. TSE, 2. Macedon, 3. Rome, 4. Carthage, 5. Armenia and Germania a close sixth.
    The war between Rome and Carthage is costing both a lot of blood, but surprisingly Rome takes a greater beating. They probably have a lot of crappy hastati and auxilia in their legions. In the last decade Macedon has really boomed, let's see if they can keep it up.
    They have prospered, they have flourished, but they will never forget .... wait, wrong game
    Last edited by Exekutor; September 05, 2007 at 01:09 PM.

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    haha this is great, wonderfull comments

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    Cool! This is really interesting! I told you to go play Roma Surrectum Exekutor
    Do the Romans have to reforms yet? Your campaign looks really interesting. Aren't you feeling the urge to train some elite Rhodian hoplites and kick some butts?

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    Thanks Tankbuster
    No reforms yet (I do get a message when it happens, right?). I think it will take quite some time for them, I doubt city plumbing is a priority for the AI. But I will recruit a spy and have a look at the "reform" cities.
    Of course I feel the urge for some action. Especially Cyprus looks like a nice target, since they're rebels. But I have my houserules, no intervention whatsoever, I will stay completely unseen, I'm not at war with anybody and I don't want to change it now.
    Did nobody get my blatant Freelancer quote at the end of the last update?

    Another update coming right away. Two updates in one day, thats better than Christmas

    We'll start with the Seleucid, maybe they aren't as braindead as I thought...


    A little look at the Punic War in Spain in 217BC. Romans are slowly gaining the upper hand, they can just get their reinforcements faster to the front.


    The first time I see these annoucements, I never played that long (216BC) until now


    After TSE conquered the last free people cities in Africa, they were only left with one city, Mytilene. But somehow they managed to snatch Chalcis from Macedon. Annoying little buggers


    213BC, Parthia was finally finished off after rotting away for like 50 years


    211BC, the last Bosporan town falls to Macedon, which just started a war with Germania. Armenia is sandwiched between the Seleucid and Macedon and decides to pick a fight with the latter, since they are occupied with Germania.




    The World at 210BC

    Maybe I was a bit to optimistic about TSE, they lost a town to the Sarmatians, I don't think it can get more embarrasing


    It cost Rome a lot of blood, but they now have the upper hand in Spain and should be able to kick Carthage out very soon.


    Macedon is confronted with a two-front war with Germania and Armenia. My bet is still on Macedon though.


    1. Macedon, 2. TSE, 3. Rome, 4. Carthage, 5. Armenia
    Since Macedon is now the strongest, I think they can handle Armenia and Germania at the same time. Strangely Rome and Carthage are recovering nicely, although there still rages a full-scale war between them. TSE is probably declining because of their own stupidity ... talk about historical accuracy
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