Kingdoms Version of SV mod

[|Lorre|]

Yes, this is the million dollar question: What should we do with the now available Medieval 2 expansion (Kingdoms) and the SV mod?

Do you have some plans to release the mod for plain M2 only, or to use the features of the expansion (like hero units)?

Maybe it's to early to ask it, but...

[SicilianVespers]

Yes, this is the million dollar question: What should we do with the now available Medieval 2 expansion (Kingdoms) and the SV mod?

Do you have some plans to release the mod for plain M2 only, or to use the features of the expansion (like hero units)?

Maybe it's to early to ask it, but...

I need to buy it, and get it installed before I can commit to anything

[DaVinci]

Well, we can use this topic to discuss the dis-/advantages of the expansion, and if it will add to the SV project or not.
Any players' experiences are welcome here.

Btw., i guess i won't buy the expansion very soon, but i must admit i haven't informed myself a lot about 'Kingdoms', other than that, that it has some special campaigns as content.

[|Lorre|]

Well, we can use this topic to discuss the dis-/advantages of the expansion, and if it will add to the SV project or not.
Any players' experiences are welcome here.

Btw., i guess i won't buy the expansion very soon, but i must admit i haven't informed myself a lot about 'Kingdoms', other than that, that it has some special campaigns as content.

I read something in Gamespot, the news are many but not so many... I explain myself: there will be some extra campaigns with a restricted map:

1- Teutonic Wars in the East
2- Americas campaign (spain, maya, incas, apaches (!!!) and others)
3- Crusader states campaigns
4- Conquest of England (Wales, Scotland, England, Ireland and Norway)

There would be 160 new units, and the new "hero" units with historical characters that will have special abilities, this is the thing that I liked much to see even in SV: try to think to have in battle the Emperor Frederik Barbarossa, or Saladin... could be nice to recognize them with unique skins and so on.

I will try the expansion within 1-2 weeks, I will the report the news

[SicilianVespers]

I read something in Gamespot, the news are many but not so many... I explain myself: there will be some extra campaigns with a restricted map:

1- Teutonic Wars in the East
2- Americas campaign (spain, maya, incas, apaches (!!!) and others)
3- Crusader states campaigns
4- Conquest of England (Wales, Scotland, England, Ireland and Norway)

There would be 160 new units, and the new "hero" units with historical characters that will have special abilities, this is the thing that I liked much to see even in SV: try to think to have in battle the Emperor Frederik Barbarossa, or Saladin... could be nice to recognize them with unique skins and so on.

I will try the expansion within 1-2 weeks, I will the report the news

Unspoken Knight is retrofitting the Kingdoms features into the Imperial Campaign, so that should make it much easier.

Retrofit Mod 1.0 Released

[SicilianVespers]

I have SV 2.1.0.x working under Kingdoms

[jethro]

Great to hear that! SV is great and actually it is the only mod I want to play; having the new features brought by Kingdoms can only improve the experience.

Just some questions:
- Will the next release of SV use the new K units?
- IIRC Guilds didn't "work" well in vanilla, did you fixed them in SV (or did CA in the last 1.2/1.3 patch)?
- What about implementing an adapted version of the Klink's garrison script to avoid Blitzkrieg strategies?
- Did you implement any tweaks to avoid AI to set up entire armies made of artillery units?
- Will Sicilian Combat sub-mod be ported to Kingdoms?

Sorry if some questions are dumb, had only few time to play so my knowledge of this mod is limited, I'm looking forward to the next SV release to play it extensively.

Thanks a lot!

[SicilianVespers]

Great to hear that! SV is great and actually it is the only mod I want to play; having the new features brought by Kingdoms can only improve the experience.

Thanks

Just some questions:
- Will the next release of SV use the new K units?

We are actually still discussing this in the Dev forum

- IIRC Guilds didn't "work" well in vanilla, did you fixed them in SV (or did CA in the last 1.2/1.3 patch)?

We have some plans for guilds, but nothing concrete yet.

- What about implementing an adapted version of the Klink's garrison script to avoid Blitzkrieg strategies?

I wrote my own custom garrison script. It includes every region, and will not impact performance.

- Did you implement any tweaks to avoid AI to set up entire armies made of artillery units?

The next version of SV will feature custom unit and campaign balancing, courtesy of DaVinci. Anyone familiar with Chivalry: Total War, will know they are in for a treat

- Will Sicilian Combat sub-mod be ported to Kingdoms?

See above

Sorry if some questions are dumb, had only few time to play so my knowledge of this mod is limited, I'm looking forward to the next SV release to play it extensively.

Thanks for the support

[Nico]

I think a few advantages of incorporating your mod to kingdoms would be:
- They have a few new units that are pretty cool, (guhlams and a few others for muslim factions as well as some that could be used as mercenaries al around europe)
- That hero ability they talk about (although im not such a fan of this one)
- The coolest thing I've hear of as an advantage is using the permanent fortresses as castles (i think you can even recruit units in these) and thefore more than duplicating the amount of cities in the map (you just use every posible provice as a city and the fortresses as castles)
- A few other advanages are new factions and new graphics for some castles and cities.

cheers
Nico

[jethro]

Thanks SicilianVespers! Really exciting! SV is definitely going to be a must!

Regards,
J

[SicilianVespers]

Here are more previews of the Kingdoms version of SV:

New UI Interfaces for Kingdoms version:

Southern European





Northern European





Middle Eastern






Boiling Oil




Stone Forts (from the other thread)

Campaign Map





Battle Map - Middle Eastern




Battle Map - North European




The Stone Forts are all still a work in progress, so the end result may vary. The placement of the forts was also just for testing purposes.

[Shadow_Imperator]

YAY!

That looks awesome mate!

Any pictures of Byzantium though??

[SicilianVespers]

Byzantium uses the Southern European interface.

Don't worry Byzantium will bet Greek Fire Syphons, but theu won't be manned by Latinikon

[Basileios]

Byzantium uses the Southern European interface.

Don't worry Byzantium will bet Greek Fire Syphons, but theu won't be manned by Latinikon

Thank godness!

[SicilianVespers]

Siphonarioi (Greek Fire Siphons)





You can see the first base unit is in chain mail similar to Skoutatoi, ans the UG1 is on the right.

[zznɟ ǝɥʇ]

Can't wait!

[Shadow_Imperator]

Those things would be awesome on top of a gatehouse...
Siphonarioi + Boiling Oil = the shizz!!

[SicilianVespers]

Does anyone have any pics of what these guys really looked like?

I think the Byzantines were advanced enough to have flame retardant materials. Perjhaps I'll add an Epilorikion over the armor?

[Basileios]

Here it is:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=131459

The third picture the device on the left tower!