Let's discuss...UNIFORMS!!!

[Trax]

If I see a pink grenadier somewhere in the game I'm going to explode.

I have seen the error of my ways.

In this battle of Almansa reenactment video you can see (02:48) not just pink but purple troops



All I can do now is

[Samuel Adams]

lol... he's right. Well, there were plenty of nice blue ones as well.

At least those are nice Uniforms. If CA puts the effort to make pink uniforms look like that it's OK by me, as long as it's not every soldier of a certain faction!

[KLAssurbanipal]

Gardes Francaises:



Swiss Guards:













French Line Infantry:

[Darsh]

I have seen the error of my ways.

In this battle of Almansa reenactment video you can see (02:48) not just pink but purple troops



All I can do now is

If have nothing against pink uniforms if these uniforms were historically accurate, My wish is the Imperial Guard won't wear pink uniforms.

[KLAssurbanipal]

Darsh, it is this type of purple uniforms:

[Darsh]

I spoke for these guards:


Les Grenadiers à pied de la Garde Impériale

[KLAssurbanipal]

I know. but I spoke about purple uniforms from movie.

[Trax]

Darsh, it is this type of purple uniforms:

Who are they, some type of Spanish Guards?

[Hohenstaufen]

Okej I found a site which has a nice depiction of many french regiments colour pattern and facings.

Auvergne regiment has pink facings

http://perso.orange.fr/gbfwss/Site%2...%20accueil.htm

[KLAssurbanipal]

Yes, they are Spanish.

British Riflemen:

[Hohenstaufen]

Prussian grenadiers of the early 18th century:
(Note the loose fitting uniform which later changed for all the army into tight fitting uniforms)


And here are some prussian soldiers....(I dont think has been posted before)
(Note the tight fitting uniforms)

[Hohenstaufen]

Swedish Infantry:

Uniform:


1756 swedish infantry:


1779 swedish infantry:

[KLAssurbanipal]

Katharina II's Army:

[Antiochus]

Prussian Army,

early XVIII century:









mid XVIII century:





















early XVIII, Saxony soldiers in Poland-Lithuania army:





and early Brandenburgian grenadiers:

[Erebus Pasha]

It would be nice to see differences in the game between european infantry and colonial infantry. For example in the colonies the British adapted their uniforms firstly to counter the Indian threat then the American Militias. The light infantry regiments that were formed wore shorter and more adaptable coats and jackets, lighter trousers/gaiters and relied less on baggage trains. Plus such were the reforms in America of generals like Howe and Cornwallis that most line regiments acted like light infantry during the campaigns around Philadelphia and in the Carolinas.

[jarnomiedema]

@Erebus26: From what I've seen of the preview pictures in the German GameStar magazine, there do indeed appear to be seperate colonial troops vs. European troops..

Anyway, I already posted this list in the Dutch Republic Faction Thread, but I might as well repeat it here for your enjoyment..

For those of you interested, this wonderful website has an extensive database of military uniforms..

Over here is the Hendrik Jacobus Vinkhuijzen collection of military uniforms (the Dutch section). Aparently this man collected pictures of military uniforms from all over the world and at the link are all the Dutch uniforms, running from 1204 to 1909, which should adequately cover the period of Empire: Total War..

Here are a few examples (42 to be precise):

Infantry Standard bearer (1671-1713)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91825&t=w

Cavalry Standard Bearer (1671-1713)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91832&t=w

Musketeer (1671-1713)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91843&t=w

Grenadier (1671-1713)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91848&t=w

Fusilliers (1671-1713)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91849&t=w

A number of different infantrymen, including a nice flag (1701-1713)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91866&t=w

General, Officer (?), Sergeant, Grenadier and Fusillier (1718-1740)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91885&t=w

Standardbearer (1718-1740)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91878&t=w

Light Cavalry (1747)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91901&t=w

Light Cavalry 2 (1747)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91902&t=w

Light Cavalry 3 (1747)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91906&t=w

Grenadier of the Holland Guards (1749-1752)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91935&t=w

Fusillier of the Holland Guards (1749-1752)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91937&t=w

Drummer of the Holland Guards (1749-1752)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91940&t=w

Swiss Guard Grenadier (1749-1752)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91938&t=w

Horseback Guards (1749-1752) (With distinctive moustaches! )
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91950&t=w

Trumpetteer of the Horseback Guards (1749-1752)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91947&t=w

Orange Guard Grenadier (1752)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91963&t=w

Sapper of the Swiss Guards (1752)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=91967&t=w

Dragoon (1757)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=92960&t=w

Infantryman (1765)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=92804&t=w

Gunner (1765)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=92815&t=w

Marine (1772)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=92756&t=w

Hussar (1782)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=93252&t=w

Uhlan (1782)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=93253&t=w

Guard du Corps Infantryman (1783)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=97786&t=w

Guard du Corps Cavalryman (1783)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=97785&t=w

Hussar Officer (1788)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=96189&t=w

Sharpshooter (1788)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=96202&t=w

Stavenisse Pous (?) (1788-1789)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=96801&t=w

Jager (1790-1792)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=94121&t=w

Cavalryman (1793)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=95344&t=w

Chasseur (1793)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=95363&t=w

After 1795, the Dutch Republic is captured by French revolutionary forces and Dutch patriots rename the state into the Batavian Republic. The uniform code is subsequently changed as well and strongly resembles those of the French of the period..

Batavian Horsemen (1799-1801)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=102455&t=w

Infantrymen and Jagers (1799-1801)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=102456&t=w

Line Infantry, Light Infantry (Carabiniers), Light Infantry (Jagers) and a Heavy Dragoon (1799-1801)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=102471&t=w

Standardbearer (1805)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=107422&t=w

In 1807 Napoleon placed his brother Louis Napoleon at the head of the new Dutch state, now called the Kingdom of Holland. Again, the style of uniforms was changed..

Seventh regiment of the Line (1807)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=101983&t=w

General and Staff and a Guard Cavalryman (1807)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=101986&t=w

Standardbearer (1807)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=102173&t=w

Louis Napoleon's policies are too independent of France's according to Napoleon, so he quickly removes his brother from the throne and simply annexxes the former Dutch territory. Dutch uniforms are subsequently replaced with French uniforms and Dutch soldiers are incorporated in the French army. In 1812, after Napoleon's defeat, the United Kingdom of the Netherlands (incorporating the Netherlands and Belgium) is formed and new uniforms are designed (although old French uniforms are still being used)..

Dutch Infantry (1814)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=119613&t=w

National militia (Soldier and Sapper), Line Infantry Officer, Jager, Fusillier (Soldier and Musician)
http://images.nypl.org/?id=120078&t=w

I'm sure there are a few useful examples in here for either the developers at CA to use, or for potential future modders..

[KLAssurbanipal]

Spain, 1700-44:













Spain, 1750-60:













Spain, 1770-90:

[Antiochus]

Prussian Musketeers:

[Agent Provocateur]

Prussian Musketeers:

Are they legging it?

[Caudex Maximus]

Okay, these sites are a little hard to navigate (the fact that they are in German doesn't help), but they have more uniform illustrations than you can shake a stick at.

First, go here: http://www.grosser-generalstab.de/

Click on the little Iron Cross with the word "Inhalt" written underneath. It will bring up another screen with a list of links. "Knötels Uniformkunde" has a huge number of uniforms from Prussia and various German states from a range of time periods. "Les Uniformes de l'Armée française 1690 depuis 1900" has French uniforms, with a great many being from the 18th century and Napoleonic era. It also has the facing colors of all the French royal regiments. Hope it's of some use.

Also, I for one would give up a kidney to be able to design my own uniforms in game.