CTD help!

[Giuliano Taverna]

I followed the directions word for word I got a clean unmoded Rome total war game added BI patched it to 1.6 and then downloaded version 7.3 of IB to the root menu which in my case is C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War. Then I down loaded the patch (IBFD7_7.03_UPGRADE) on top of that. I then ran the program and right after the select a campaign it crashes. I’ve purged my system and repeated the process twice and it still won’t work please help.

If it’s important I have a dell that runs window XP with Intel.

[Mylae]

ok giuliano (sei italiano?);
first, i suppose you've downloaded version 7.0 (7.3 is a dream of forecoming future ) and installed that on your hard drive. If you've installed in the correct path, you should first try it - to see if there are no problems - and later the patch, who will be a sure upgrade.

But I guess the mod is started and you cannot play a campaign; have you tried with custom battles?

Please, be more clear.

[Giuliano Taverna]

Oh well my mistake however the second time I tried to play the game before the patch and it gave me some weird error and wouldn’t start. I don’t remember exactly what it said but it was something to do with the script. I’ll try it again and if it reoccurs I’ll write it down. Oh and yes I’m Italian 1st generation Italian American to be precise.

[Giuliano Taverna]

Ok I started from scratch and have just 7.0 installed I tried to run it but this time instead of an error message it just plan wouldn’t start. It crashed just after the leading screen popped up after I clicked on the IB short cut. I was running a mod free install of BI 1.6 like before which worked and then I redownloaded the 7.0. do you have any idea what I did wrong I also have a back up of a clean Rome total war game and a working personal modification I made for EB both of which are in a separate folded titled back up and EB back up respectively. They also don’t affect vanilla and BI in any way.

I’ve never had this problem with any of the other mods I tried on TWF. I did have some problems with RTR but I was just downloading that in the wrong folder (Activision instead of creative assembly), a mistake I have since not repeated.

[Mylae]

hm - really strange.
Well, if the Invasio Barbarorum is not working and crashes on loading screen, i've a question - does the normal vanilla barbarian invasion runs smoothly? since IB is in a separate folder that you get from the shortcut, a proper installation of IB should not have touched the vanilla game.
But if the vanilla game is corrupt, you have to reinstall it.

do the following steps:
1- install RTW and BI (default in C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War)
2- patch them to 1.6 (or just get your backup)
3- load the game and try it to be sure that everithing is fine
4- download the IBFD 7
5- install IBFD 7 in the same root folder of RTW (that should be C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War)
6- wait for the end of installation and dos black windows end his work
7- run the game from the shortcut you will get in your desktop.

[Giuliano Taverna]

Vanilla BI works fine I was terrorizing the country side as the Huns wile I was waiting for your response, no glitches or problems on that front.

Oh and the rout file in my version of Rome total war seams to be creative assembly not activation. That was the file the default function selected and the one that I ran all the past mods I played including RTR and EB.

Oh and about the black dos window. I wasn’t sure about that because from what I could tell it just kept repeating even after IB loaded. So after about 10 minutes and after seeing the same command line twice I just x it out. Is that my problem and if so how do I know when it’s complete?

I appreciate the help and when I get up tomorrow I’ll try letting that run for a wile when I try to down load it again but if you could shed some light on the subject that would help I haven’t touched anything dos since my first computer at age 5 (it was considerable older than me indecently) anyway good night.

[Ramon Gonzales y Garcia]

Vanilla BI works fine I was terrorizing the country side as the Huns wile I was waiting for your response, no glitches or problems on that front.

Oh and the rout file in my version of Rome total war seams to be creative assembly not activation. That was the file the default function selected and the one that I ran all the past mods I played including RTR and EB.

Oh and about the black dos window. I wasn’t sure about that because from what I could tell it just kept repeating even after IB loaded. So after about 10 minutes and after seeing the same command line twice I just x it out. Is that my problem and if so how do I know when it’s complete?

I appreciate the help and when I get up tomorrow I’ll try letting that run for a wile when I try to down load it again but if you could shed some light on the subject that would help I haven’t touched anything dos since my first computer at age 5 (it was considerable older than me indecently) anyway good night.

you should let the dos run to the end. what it is doing is
1. copying the whole bi folder to an ibfd folder
2. copying all the contents of an ibfd_TEMP folder to the ibfd folder
it can take a lot of time, I usually need 20 minutes. you will know it has ended because it will simply close itself

[Giuliano Taverna]

Thank you it was that the dos script needed to run its course so I did and now it works thanks for the help the games great. I should mention that I hadn’t encountered the script in mods before so I didn’t really know how to handle it. You might want to add that to the instruction list but anyway thanks for the help.

[Giuliano Taverna]

Crap I’ve got another problem. I downloaded the latest patch and began playing. I (wile at first was a little disappointed that I could no longer recruit gothic fotadellies and Persian levy troops In less than a turn) quickly adapted my tactics and the body of my frontier limes accordingly and set siege to the free province of Armenia Koatis I used the starting army nearby and started the battle. I then stormed the city I use the heavy onager to bombard the city in support of the heavy legions I hand sent to the breech, but halfway before they engaged the enemy the CTD stopped me dead in my tracks. T

That was the second time that happened. The first was when I tried to boot up my pre patch save and as I suspected during the battle against the sassinid empire it froze I figured it would since many aspects of the game had changed but when I started the second game at first it worked fine but then as I stated it cut my battle short hence this problem do you have any Idea why this happened and how I can rectify it?

I read in the description of the patch that I could add this upgrade over my preexisting game and mod so I did so and at first before this problem it worked fine. I’ve heard that other problems of this nature had occurred to others but I was hopefully that I would avoid them however I of course suspected something like this would happen eventually so if there is away I can fix it please explain if not then hopefully at least this incident will help shed some light on this problem.

[Giuliano Taverna]

This definitely wasn’t a fluke I ran the exact same battle in the exact same game and just as my troops closed on the town square it froze I was so close to victory it’s infuriating! If anyone can shed light on my dilemma I would greatly appreciate it.

[Ramon Gonzales y Garcia]

just curious do u have other mods installed?

[Giuliano Taverna]

No I don’t just plain RTW plain BI and the BI 6.0 patch with IB 7.0 and the 7.4 patch.

And to update I started over from scratch with a clean install and when I played as ERE It started to frees on the same battle but I managed to keep trying and eventually I won the battle before it froze but then a few turns later I attacked Dumatha with the same set up heavy infantry assault backed by flaming onager bombardment. I played the battle 3 times already and it always freezes I have no Idea what’s wrong but it really bothering me. Is it possible there is some sort of glitch in the 7.4 patch I didn’t have this problem with the 7.3 and it’s pretty new. I wonder has any one else had problems with this patch? I am no expert on moding but since I followed the instructions to the letter I can’t think of anything I could have done to cause this, but I’ve been wrong before.

I do have a back up of EB but that’s in a different folder completely and with a different title.

[Giuliano Taverna]

Ok I have a theory about the crashes that keep reoccurring in my game. Every time I enter a battle with siege engines the game at some point CTD’s one me. This also seems to happen when there is an abundance of cavalry charges. In fact I just have a CTD a few minutes ago in a battle against the Sassinid empire I it was raining so my ballista’s were crippled but so were the composite bow’s of the enemy as the enemy was a closing on my defensive line the game once again froze. I am getting very frustrated. Is there something wrong with version 7.4? Please help me.

[Giuliano Taverna]

I don’t mean to sound impatient but it’s been a few days and these CTD’s are really interfering with my ability to play and enjoy this great mod. So can you please help me?
Thanks in advance.

[Ramon Gonzales y Garcia]

These CTDs in battles that crop up only in 7.04 really surprises me as the difference between 7.03 and 7.04 is mostly in EDU and EDB only, there are no new animations,... and there have been reports of CTDs for Sassanids and ERE which are relatively untouched, only the Armenians and Berbers were changed....
Mind you, I am not saying that you are imagining things nor that the CTDs shouldn't be here, but it is perplexing to think what can be causing it...

another thing are u running on Vista?

[Giuliano Taverna]

These CTDs in battles that crop up only in 7.04 really surprises me as the difference between 7.03 and 7.04 is mostly in EDU and EDB only, there are no new animations,... and there have been reports of CTDs for Sassanids and ERE which are relatively untouched, only the Armenians and Berbers were changed....
Mind you, I am not saying that you are imagining things nor that the CTDs shouldn't be here, but it is perplexing to think what can be causing it...

another thing are u running on Vista?

I have an update I just booted up IB a few minutes ago and for the first time since I downloaded the game I had a series of random crashes not during battles but on the campaign map I thought the issue were connected to the battles but apparently they also occur on the campaign map this happen 5 times in a row all in the last 10 minutes. As a result the game is now completely unplayable.

Also I noticed that when I ran the shadow spanning Ostrogoth option I noticed instead of starting out as allies the ERE and the Sassinids were at war like in ver 7.3 I am not sure if this was intentional but I thought I should mention that because if it is a glitch than that might have something to do with all of this.

I don’t mean to sound like a technophobe but what exactly is vista? I have a windows XP professional 1-2CPU Dell if that helps.

[peciorin]

I had CTD's in battle, too. I can't remember what the first one was, but the last one was just an hour ago, and it was a small battle - my Frankish general with 2 units of light cavalry against a roman general - so it wasn't the computer crashing for lacking memory or something. If this is useful to you, it crashed exactly when I zoomed on my general engaging the enemy's. And another thing: I noticed that frankish generals come in two kinds of units. Some of them (the starting ones, I believe) are heavy axemen (I can't remember their name, something starting with an "e") and the other ones (gained by adoption) are "antrostija scola" - which seem to be weaker. Is this a bug or is it normal?

[SeniorBatavianHorse]

Vista is the next operating system from Microsoft - I have Vista and there can be some compatibility issues with games designed to run on Windows XP, for example -

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...a/default.mspx

[Giuliano Taverna]

Oh thanks that makes sense. Well I have XP not vista.