just got RTR is their a way to just keep the RTR battle speed on vanilla? and one more question

[rob_church]

hello i recenty got back into this game and discovered that rome tw has been modded so i tried rtr platinum 1.9 .im not really a history buff that might be taboo for this area, but i loved the speed of the battles is their anyway to get that speed on vanilla or a mod that gives you uber roman units and that battle speed or even just a mod that gives you uber units bassically is their a mod like rtr minus the realisim. lol i just want to slay as the romans for a while, been reading this site for a week now and havent seen a mod that does it ,just want the slow down if possible and if anyone know a great mod to get even better troops then please share
been reading aobut spQr mod but it changes alot of stuff to, then found a refernce to a m&m mod? that has better troops but for the life of me cant find find it anywhere ,so to recap if anyone knows of a mod that slows down the speed to that of rtr or of a mod that gives you better roman unit that would be wonderful. i like the rtr most notibaly the battles but the more i research it (proving challneging as thier forums are down) the more i find it it has less troops then vanilla lol the exact oppisite of why i went looking at mods in the first place

these 2 questions have been bugging me for a while now so i thought id combine them in one post. the speed one is the most wanted thought, even on vanilla if you could fight the same speed as rtr the battles would be epic.

thank you for your time

[florin80]

m&m(unless you actually meant the candy) is probably the MN mod(metro naval mod) which is basically RTRPE with some other modifications. The sub-forum for it is next to the RTRPE one.
There are a few mods that only add romans I think. One would be the roman legions pack by ferres. Here is the link to his thread:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=46617
And the link to the post with dl and pics:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showp...postcount=2523

Then there is Res Gestae. It was planned as a big conversion, but in the end only the romans were released. Here is a link for their sub-forum.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=149
As for the dl link that work you`ll have to look around. There are some threads with roman pictures too. The rest of the factions have not been released though.

The game speed can be changed by editing a file. You don`t need to install a mod for that. You need to go to this location:
Rome - Total War/data
and look for this file:
descr_battle_map_movement_modifiers.txt
This is how the RTRPE one looks like:

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

climate default

grass_short 0.8
grass_long 0.8
sand 0.8
rock 0.8
forest_dense 0.72
scrub_dense 0.8
swamp 0.72
mud 0.68
mud_road 0.8
stone_road 0.8
water 0.68
ice 0.68
snow 0.68

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

What you need to do is change those values, but if you like the way it is in RTRPE just use this file in your vanilla game. One more thing. In general, when you mod a file it is best to make a backup of it first so you can revert the changes if you want to.

[rob_church]

thank you florin80 for that info i will definttly look thouse 2 mods up sounds just what i was looking for one last question just looking at the file you posted on the speed. will that change just the speed they walk or how long they hack on each other to? im guessing theirs nothing i can do with out alot of complicted stuff to change how long they hack on each other like rtr.
im guessing thats from changing each induviduals stats to lower them. either way thank you very much for your quick and informative response.

[florin80]

You`re welcome! The distance between two attacks is defined for each unit in export_descr_unit from what I know. So it is a bit more time consuming. Open the file if you want. It is in the same location as the previous one. At te begining of the file there are explanations for what those values stand. The one that interests you is after this part:

stat_pri      From left to right

It`s the last value explained there I think.
Anyway, don`t try to replace the whole file from vanilla RTW with the one from RTRPE because it will not work.

[rob_church]

so upon further fuigering it out

this is rtr princable
11, 6, pilum, 38, 2, thrown, blade, piercing, spear, 20 , 1

and here is vanilla
11, 2, pilum, 35, 2, thrown, blade, piercing, spear, 25 ,1

so the attack bonus factor was raised to 6
the amunnition was raised to 38 and everything i can fuiger out what it is. (execpt the number 25 witch in rtr is lowered to 20)im guessing this is the base attack rate perhaps i should only take off 5 from each of the 25 for all the units .will this give the desired result or am i wwaaaaaaaaayyyy off lol?

[rob_church]

ah thank you agian im having a bit of trouble understanding what you mean .the only thing iv modded was the sims and that just drag and drop so this is very new and intimedating to me
so i open that file and ifound this

type barb peasant briton
dictionary barb_peasant_briton ; Barbarian Peasants
category infantry
class light
voice_type Light_1
soldier barb_peasant, 60, 0, 0.7
attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest
formation 1.2, 1.8, 2.4, 2.4, 6, horde
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 1, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, knife, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 3, 1, 0, leather
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 2, -2, 3, 2
stat_mental 0, low, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 150, 100, 20, 30, 150
ownership britons

so what you where saying is to change this line
stat_pri 1, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, knife, 25 ,1

so if i understand correctly the 25 if i want them to hack at each other longer ,i should make that number half to like 12 and do this for every unit in the game or am i way off lol.if you dont awnser i will understand as you have been very kind as to awsner my other questions and nothing more annoying then noobs. i dl the legions mod you suggested and love the units, now if i can fuiger out how to make them slash at each other for longer like the battles in rtr, then vanilla will be barable