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    Default Charge of the braindead brigade

    I attack a Seleucid city, wherein their faction leader lies in wait. There garrison is light on numbers though, so I knock holes in the walls with my siege engines and set up hammer and anvil greeting parties. The Selkie king also comes out of the square to meet me, but stops a little distance short of my spearman block. So they run and mob his bodyguards, leaving only him running back to the safety of the square. Meanwhile, the returning wall defenders have been duly crushed between the bottleneck and the triarii in their rear. So far so good.

    I systematically set up another hammer and anvil to deal with the square defenders, who consist of a phalanx unit and their escaped king, as per my advice on this. 2 lines of spearmen as the anvil, missile capable heavy infantry in their back, plus my triarii. The Italian spearmen advance to the edge of the square, then stop and dress their ranks. The Selkie defenders, offended by this impertinence, advance to meet them, the phalanxmen rather more enthusiastically than their general. Thus the phalangites lead the way, with the Selkie general hanging back slightly. Perhaps embarrassed by this display of cravenness, perhaps having got his courage up with a quick prayer before combat, our intrepid Seleucid king charges into the fray with a blare of trumpets...

    ...and impales himself on the phalanx in front of him.

    Forget onagers and friendly fire, this was the most stupid death of any general I've ever seen, getting butt spiked by his own phalangites without even making contact.

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    Classic. Shame you don't have a screenshot - people might even pay good money to see it!

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    Default Re: Charge of the braindead brigade

    Lol I needed a good laugh, Selevkid king- dead on his own pikeman
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    Default Re: Charge of the braindead brigade

    I was wondering if the game let your soldiers hurt each other in melee combat...

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    Default Re: Charge of the braindead brigade

    It doesn't. But I myself lost a general to friendly phalanx butt-spikes due to bad pathfinding. In a city of course...

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    I've noticed that cavalry in full gallop get killed if they pass through their own side's lowered pikes.
    Not suprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joerd9 View Post
    It doesn't. But I myself lost a general to friendly phalanx butt-spikes due to bad pathfinding. In a city of course...
    i dont think its possible..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by svramj View Post
    i dont think its possible..........
    Yes it is! The killcam was very precise on this. No enemy unit nearby, only the back of my own phalanx...

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    Agreed. Cavalry shouldn't be able to maneuver through a phalanx.

    Do you guys notice that you don't take many friendly fire casualties from your own archers? That was a nice touch in MTW 1, but I noticed that I don't take anywhere near the same casualties in RTW if I accidentally target a unit for missile fire that's in melee with my own men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinn Inuit View Post
    Agreed. Cavalry shouldn't be able to maneuver through a phalanx.

    Do you guys notice that you don't take many friendly fire casualties from your own archers? That was a nice touch in MTW 1, but I noticed that I don't take anywhere near the same casualties in RTW if I accidentally target a unit for missile fire that's in melee with my own men.
    Actually I sadly do tend to take casualties if my archers/slingers/skirmishers start pouring fire into a combat one of my units is involved in. On the odd ocassion, I've even managed to rout my beleaguered troops when my trigger-happy archers fire a flaming volley into a melee in a ill-timed attempt to assist my own side. Oh well.

    And I've also had my cavalry impale themselves upon the pikes and spears of my own phalanx units. It's never happened to my General, but many a poor cavalryman has galloped to an early grave without ever snatching a whiff of the enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Actually I sadly do tend to take casualties if my archers/slingers/skirmishers start pouring fire into a combat one of my units is involved in. On the odd ocassion, I've even managed to rout my beleaguered troops when my trigger-happy archers fire a flaming volley into a melee in a ill-timed attempt to assist my own side. Oh well.

    And I've also had my cavalry impale themselves upon the pikes and spears of my own phalanx units. It's never happened to my General, but many a poor cavalryman has galloped to an early grave without ever snatching a whiff of the enemy.
    Really? Ok, that's good. On what difficulty level do you play? I wonder if that has something to do with it. I'm usually on Medium in battles (I did _not_ spend all that time balancing just to give the comp a random bonus).
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    Default Re: Charge of the braindead brigade

    If your cavalry gallop into your own pikes they die. Simple as that. I learned it the hard way, now I never order them to run back through my phalanx.
    If they go at a slow pace though, no problem at all.
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    Default Re: Charge of the braindead brigade

    i play medium medium, and if your archers/slingers/skirmishers/whatever are behind your infantry and the enemy gets close to your infantry, my friendly missile tend to hit friendly flesh more than i'd like. i usuall stop them from firing once the enemy gets really close

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    As do I. Or run them round the back of their engaged units, if that's possible.

    I think I play with Medium battle difficulty. I also feel it's stupid to give the computer a general stat boost.

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    Ok, well, then either I've just never noticed it or I've turned off the missile units in time. Thank you both for clearing that up for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Actually I sadly do tend to take casualties if my archers/slingers/skirmishers start pouring fire into a combat one of my units is involved in. On the odd ocassion, I've even managed to rout my beleaguered troops when my trigger-happy archers fire a flaming volley into a melee in a ill-timed attempt to assist my own side. Oh well.

    And I've also had my cavalry impale themselves upon the pikes and spears of my own phalanx units. It's never happened to my General, but many a poor cavalryman has galloped to an early grave without ever snatching a whiff of the enemy.
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    Yes it is! The killcam was very precise on this. No enemy unit nearby, only the back of my own phalanx...
    You both gave me a good laugh from reading your experiences, and remembering a few of my own similar experiences. It might be frustrating at the time, but sure funny to think about later. Thanks for sharing!
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    I posted once back at RTR forum, but my worst experience was when Faction Leader himself died after felling into the river... This happened after I click continue (when enemy routes) so I send all my units across the bridge to kill'em all.....

    It's from my RTR 6 Gold Roman campaign I think...


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    i dont think its possible..........
    Oh yes it is!

    I have lost several generals by having them pass through my own spearmen units... and i have kicked myself every time!

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    In a way, its nice to see I'm not the only one who has had a few human errors occur on their way to "world conquest".
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    At least all your generals died bloodily as a warrior should, even if it's blue-on-blue casualty..

    Mine because he didn't have swimmer trait...


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