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    Default This game is not for perfectionists

    It takes me literally an hour just to go 1 turn.

    I double check every one of my settlements and make sure I'm not recuriting the same troops.

    Not to mention, I'm waging war against 2 large factions on opposite sides of my land with water in between.

    And I try to be efficient in the number of turns I take to travel.

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    Default Re: This game is not for perfectionists

    Well, I'm also a perfectionist.

    What helps is try your very best to avoid wars, and possibly wage only defensive wars while keeping a very small, compact, but highly efficient empire.

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    Isn't it better to advance the kingdom and expand the land?


    That's what I'm doing right now.


    (Regardless, this game is much more fun just expanding and terrorizing the land)

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    I'm just saying, if you're too keen on making everything perfect, you'll have to expand at a crawling snail's pace, or else you'll drive yourself mad trying to make everything orderly when spamming armies and fighting off multiple enemies. That kind of play is a bit haphazard - leaving cities undefended or ungarrisoned, sacking cities over and over to generate extra revenue for more armies, etc.


    If you find expanding quickly to be the most fun, I say self the perfectionist in you and just go crazy with it. I sometimes let loose like that. But I always end up going back to my slow-expansionist policies. It lets me build huge cities with 200+% public order without ever exterminating or sacking, and making incredible amounts of florins with only five or six cities and one or two castles.

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    I play the same way as your describing Khan. I build a small Kingdom, keep a strategic location. And then I just kind of cruise, go on crusades/jihads, etc. Its actually more fun this way to me.

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    Default Re: This game is not for perfectionists

    Exactly the same as me lol

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    Default Re: This game is not for perfectionists

    I play a similar way, nice and slow, strategic and tactical. If I am Scotland for instance, after I conquer all of Britannia, I sail to Scandinavia, conquer Norway and Sweden, then I hold my conquests for about 10 years to make money and build more buildings. After that, I strike towards Denmark, then Germany, and then France. After that, I go towards Iberia, then North Africa. I haven't ever gone much further than that however.


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    The first "princess" demanded I give her 210 forins or else her faction would attack me.

    I said fine. Here's your money. I'm waging war on the other side of the map.

    After 2 more factions approached me with the same threat I said screw it. Bring it.


    IT"S ON!!! So far 2 tiny armies attacked me.


    It's so fun fighting 1 50 man crossbow militia group and another 75 man spear group with 10 of my calvary, archer, spearman units. lol

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    I usually seperate between native provinces and conquered ones. the native ones I take care of and try to build perfectly, while conquered ones I oppress and build only needed ones. If I get sieged or if I see that the AI is going to take over, I even tear down half the city.

    My biggest problem (time wise) is that i tend to play 2 to 5 factions at the same time (thanks to hotseat) and so sometimes one turn can be longer than one hour even without battles
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    My most recent campaign as England has been like that. The very first thing I did was give Cean to France and consolidate my position in England. It's 1245 and I've only just now started expanding into Norway/Sweden after finishing Scotland off by assassinating their royal family. However things have started getting crazy after being told by the explorers guild and the council of nobles to take Arhus and Bruges, which ended up starting a war with Denmark and France
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    Default Re: This game is not for perfectionists

    Is there a way to never lose a city or settlement you captured?

    ..or never lose a battle?

    Throughout the whole campaign on moderate difficulty. The reason I ask is that I might as well get prepared to lose some settlements or cities instead of trying to save them.

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    Default Re: This game is not for perfectionists

    of course you can cheat you winning every battle, even without that it is rather easy to win any and all battles.

    But I think you can sometimes harm the AI more if you let her win a campaign for a city (which after I prepared it for them) is nothing more than a big unrest slum which costs them tons of money to rebuild, tons of troops to keep it controlled and that weakens them more than if I destroy one army of them... So loosing is sometimes better than winning. you just have to decide when and then its not loosing any longer but strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by homefry View Post
    Is there a way to never lose a city or settlement you captured?

    ..or never lose a battle?

    Throughout the whole campaign on moderate difficulty. The reason I ask is that I might as well get prepared to lose some settlements or cities instead of trying to save them.
    Well. I find it easy to defend cities with just a few militia units(melee ones of course). It works great early game, dunno about mid game and late game. But early game the enemy won't have too many siege weapons. So you can just sit some units on the walls to beat back the enemies that arrive in siege towers/ladders then the rest just guard the gate. It's possible to do the same late game, but you will need some more militia(or some stronger castle units would be even better) to cover the extra breaches that larger sieging armies will make.


    As for never losing a battle, that is more difficult. Well the easiest way would be stick to the easy to defend city battles, and when you send your army out send it fully stacked. If possible send at least one other full stack and always place them next to each other. Enemies are less likely to attack because they usually field smaller armies.

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    Default Re: This game is not for perfectionists

    Quote Originally Posted by homefry View Post
    Is there a way to never lose a city or settlement you captured?

    ..or never lose a battle?

    Throughout the whole campaign on moderate difficulty. The reason I ask is that I might as well get prepared to lose some settlements or cities instead of trying to save them.
    well, use load/save wisely. enable autosave too.

    but if you think thats a cheap way of avoiding losses, some tips i would give are: before sending out a force, put enough quantity/quality into an army stack that gives you enough confidence to survive an attack from an enemy's full stack.

    place spies far ahead of your borders to detect any incoming invasion, this works great in conjunction with having an emergency army in the middle of your territory (or the most dangerous areas) to fend off serious attacks that militias cannot handle. watch out for upkeep though.

    remember its better to enter a battle as the defender rather than the attacker, and try to minimize sieging enemy castles/cities and rather have them come out to you. (you can ignore this once you have gunpowder artillery, or if you actually like sieging)

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    If there's one thing I like more in any RTS game is having to really fight for an objective and have yo-yo battles and campaigns, constantly taking and retaking a settlement. However, most of the time you either steam-roll the AI, or you your self get steam-rolled. Finding the line in between is rather difficult.

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    Default Re: This game is not for perfectionists

    Every time I play Galactic Civ. 2, I think how much the TW series could benefit by having that game's UI.

    The minimap overlays, and diplomacy interface in particular would be significant time savers.

    A lot of the fun of the game can be had in micromanaging things well; it's always fun to finesse something, but there's no reason it should take as long as it does!
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    Default Re: This game is not for perfectionists

    Playing LTC right now as the Moors and I'm on a crawling campaign where I'm slowly gaining settlements without going to war and maintaining a Trustworthy rep.

    How? 6-8 Imams and a few spys in another faction's settlements does wonders for your alliance. I took out Portugal while allied with them and Spain doing this. The Mongols are wrecking havoc in Eastern Europe and I'm just chilling.

    Pretty perfect for me.

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    Default Re: This game is not for perfectionists

    I had over 300 Battles and didnt lose a single one. Its not that hard, just keep advancing toward a strategic position. With my morrish campaign i got as far as Metz, Staufen and Innsbruck. Those 3 Castles block me off nicely fromt he rest of the world. and I got Easy way to Americas. However dealing with Aztec is a pain in the butt.

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    Default Re: This game is not for perfectionists

    Quote Originally Posted by homefry
    It takes me literally an hour just to go 1 turn...
    Same here. In the late game, with lots of battles it can takes me 5 hours to do one turn.

    On your question about winning all battles: I would say it is very doable. I have not done it myself; but that is not a goal I have set for myself. As it is, I played many vanilla RTW games on Hard/Hard to VH/VH, and lost very few battles. The ones I did lose were mostly naval battles, where I was typically attacked. If you are looking for that perfect battle score, keep your fleets docked until you can float a fleet which is unbeatable, since your skill has no bearing on the outcome.

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    Default Re: This game is not for perfectionists

    Win every battle? Easy.


    Learn to use horse archers.

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