How 'bout Empires?

**aesthete** · August 22, 2007, 09:15 PM

Now that Empires: Total War has been announced, why don't you guys use that instead of Medieval?

**Lebre** · August 22, 2007, 09:35 PM

If you look closely empires has just been announced and the estimated release dat is late 2008 (make that maybe 2009) then the team would have to get together again (imagine some of then would slipt to makesome other projects) and they would have to figure out the new system in which ETW works after that the years of development which would conclude in maybe late 2010. Do you want to wait that long to have EB whith new grafics and new mechanics? I don't!!!

Lebre

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · August 23, 2007, 12:20 AM

'Empires' will be a completely different engine that will require a complete relearning of the game. That alone would make it very difficult. M2TW is the same engine as RTW and many things can be ported/adapted. Plus, the team already has knowledge of the RTW/M2TW engine.

Empires will also be designed for a gunpowder era and will most likely lack game dynamics necessary for an ancient period game. At the very least, we will loose all of the formations.

EB2 for M2TW is still planned. That being said, it doesn't mean that there will never be a EB3 someday (distant).

**Tigran of Sasoun** · August 23, 2007, 04:17 PM

Right now I am in a game design course and next year I will have a job in the industry, and experience and at that time I will love to join the EB team (if they are still together) and help you guys out in anyway possible. I love this time period in history and I will play it in every installment in the series. Iv played it countless times in Rome, I will play it way more in Medieval, and who knows what features Empire introduces and how that can benefit EB. AWSOME!!

Good luck with the mod guys I cant wait!.

**Keravnos** · August 23, 2007, 10:35 PM

Well, so far, we are very much into going on with EB. Every kind of help we can get, we will. Best of luck with your studies, and if you feel like contributing in the future, you know where you will find us. For EB2 we will need unit artists, and a lot of them as porting 400+ units over to M2 with the standard that you guys have come to accept will take a lot of time/manpower to complete. That and scripting gurus. Most of EB you see and like, is basically scripts, as that is what keeps people to EB, after they see and enjoy graphics, nations etc.

EB has been blessed with a "new generation" of people who are very enthusiastic and very good at what they do. I do hope you can join them, as we can always use help, especially in the areas mentioned above.

**Tigran of Sasoun** · August 25, 2007, 05:03 AM

Man i would love to start getting my hands dirty right away but starting on the 25th my group and myself are going to start working on our final project, it is going to be really exciting and really time consuming. I will see though how hard it really is and if I do have time maybe I could do smaller jobs like modeling shields, swords and spears.

**501st Legion** · April 21, 2008, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus

That being said, it doesn't mean that there will never be a EB3 someday (distant).

Hooray! There is still the possibility of seeing the Battle of Actium!

**Paul d** · September 21, 2007, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by aesthete

Now that Empires: Total War has been announced, why don't you guys use that instead of Medieval?

and why don't you wait another 2-3 years for it? heck no, when they are far into the development of EB2, AFTER empires is released they will probably think about using that, but who knows; it may have a new engine

**Giuliano Taverna** · November 11, 2007, 12:58 PM

You know this series you guys are working on should get better recognition from CA I mean compared to vanilla EB was at least a hundred times better minus the ridicules strain it puts on my commuter. If it where up to me I would have you guys work on TW instead of the real developers.

**Antiochos VII Sidetes** · April 21, 2008, 08:56 PM

Just a thought, but how on EARTH would you do EB for Empires? There is no central melee base, and probably no melee-ranged ships.

**delra** · April 21, 2008, 09:31 PM

This whole ETW idea is a disaster. I don't know if I will even buy this thing. I can't stand the stupid warfare of this period...

I hope they will do R2TW after that (by late 2009 maybe). I really do. And I hope they will make it the EB way, not the silly fantasy pharoah archers Brutii/Scipii/Julii/Senate RTW way...

**Willor** · April 22, 2008, 02:00 AM

ooooh I wish I knew how to skin

**Hellenes** · April 24, 2008, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by delra

This whole ETW idea is a disaster. I don't know if I will even buy this thing. I can't stand the stupid warfare of this period...

I hope they will do R2TW after that (by late 2009 maybe). I really do. And I hope they will make it the EB way, not the silly fantasy pharoah archers Brutii/Scipii/Julii/Senate RTW way...

Well everyone to his preference but IMO ETW era is as exciting (if not more exciting) than RTW era and M2TW combined...plus I adore CA for not rehashing games (*cough*M2tW*cough*) its a much better feeling to have something new...
And to ruin your dreams: The game after ETW will be based on ETW GUNPOWDER engine...it would make 0 finansial sense to rewrite the engine just for the sake of a rehash...so the game after ETW IMO will be NapoleonicTW...
And I hope the next engine will be WWII...cause that way well get a half decent startegy game and not pathetic Dune2 clones...

**Fenix_120** · May 12, 2008, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by delra

This whole ETW idea is a disaster. I don't know if I will even buy this thing. I can't stand the stupid warfare of this period...

I hope they will do R2TW after that (by late 2009 maybe). I really do. And I hope they will make it the EB way, not the silly fantasy pharoah archers Brutii/Scipii/Julii/Senate RTW way...

Im sorry, but MTW and RTW both had very successful mods about the Napoleonic era.

I would also honestly like to see them stick with the medieval and ancient periods, im not all that much into the gun power era but i will still buy ETW becuase its probably going to be pretty fun with the ship battle and artillery and not the mention that when people do get to modding that game it has a faction limit of at least 50 and unit cap of at least 1000 so you might just get to see a "Real" medieval TW mod...

But mods don't work without the game...

**delra** · May 13, 2008, 11:58 AM

I wanted R2TW, preferably starting with Diadochi wars and ending somewhere around Sassanids. Or ancient to medieval period in China+Japan+India.

Napoleonic wars are just boring warfare.

It also will be even harder for EB team to do EB3 for ETW (imagine remodelling napoleonic era ships to look like triremes)... So... something with swords and bows would be better from both my and EB point of views.