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    Ok. The big players

    1. England
    2. France
    3. Spain
    4.Portugal
    5. The Nederlands
    6.Ottomans
    7. Russia
    8. Poland/Lithuania
    9. Habsburg-Austria
    10 Holy Romen Empire.

    The medium Players

    11. Sweden....Gustav II Adolf. The Scandinavien Lion
    12. Denmark
    13 The italien city stats, Venice, Genua, Florens, Milano ,Papal stats, Napels
    14.Brandenburg-Prussia

    The small players

    15. Scottland
    16. Irland
    17.The Swiss
    18. Khanate of the Crimea
    19. Transylvania,Wallachia,Moldavia
    20. German city stats?? Bavaria,Saxony,Oldsburg, Bremen. Hannover

    These are all the europien countrys in the 1610 .

    The Big players are safe, but what about the others..smaller ones. Will they have i faction in the new game. and what about. India, china, Japan, Persian. They were all important players at that time??

    Who will be in and who will be out.

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    The game is set in the 1700s and early 1800s.

    So that list doesn't really apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechstra View Post
    The game is set in the 1700s and early 1800s.

    So that list doesn't really apply.
    map of 1700 AD>
    http://www.euratlas.com/big/bis1700.htm

    map of 1800 AD
    http://www.euratlas.com/big/bis1800.htm
    Last edited by HorseArcher; August 22, 2007 at 07:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsearcher View Post
    If you look at the 1700 map, you get a good idea, add a bit of the 1800 map in, and that's pretty close to our faction list (for Europe, at least).

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    Also, I think Britain will be the UK, so no separate Scotland-England. Possibly the same with Ireland?

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    From 1707 onwards the entire British Isles were one nation.

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    While of course we're dealing with 18th century factions, we can't confirm the final faction list yet. Quite a few of them should be obvious, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thamis View Post
    While of course we're dealing with 18th century factions, we can't confirm the final faction list yet. Quite a few of them should be obvious, though.
    Do you confirm we'll have a hardcoded limited faction numbers ? or could we hope for an Europa Universalis like number of factions (like 150+ if i recall) ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thamis View Post
    While of course we're dealing with 18th century factions, we can't confirm the final faction list yet. Quite a few of them should be obvious, though.
    Will there be non european fractions besides Ottomans and the USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mig el Pig View Post
    Will there be non european fractions besides Ottomans and the USA?
    They seem to be saying there will be India, and I really doubt there would be rebels there - MTWII had one native American faction, the expansion many more. I imagine the Mughals will be featured.

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    For me the best will be:

    Big countries:
    - Great Britain
    - France
    - Austria - Habsburg
    - Spain
    - Poland - Lithuania
    - Russia
    - Ottoman Empire
    - Sweden
    - Dennmark
    - Brandenburg

    Other Countries:
    - Bavaria
    - Sicily
    - U.S.
    - Saxony
    - Mecklemburg
    - Swiss
    - Morocco
    - Papal States
    - Netherlands
    - Portugal
    - Toscany
    - Venice
    - Genoa
    - China
    - Japan
    - About 10 other countries in both Americas, africa and Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emilliano View Post
    For me the best will be:

    Big countries:
    - Great Britain
    - France
    - Austria - Habsburg
    - Spain
    - Poland - Lithuania
    - Russia
    - Ottoman Empire
    - Sweden
    - Dennmark
    - Brandenburg

    Other Countries:
    - Bavaria
    - Sicily
    - U.S.
    - Saxony
    - Mecklemburg
    - Swiss
    - Morocco
    - Papal States
    - Netherlands
    - Portugal
    - Toscany
    - Venice
    - Genoa
    - China
    - Japan
    - About 10 other countries in both Americas, africa and Asia.
    Maybe, but if the game starts in 1700 you would definitely have to swap Denmark out for The Netherlands in the 10 playable section. They were after all the richest Western country at the time (1700). Plus I think a Dutch faction would be great to play, very challenging. How do you stop predators like France and Prussia from taking you over? As long as the maritime side of things is properly implemented (ie has the impact it should) and the game is about "empire" and not just about pushing toy soldiers around a map of Europe than it should be possible.

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    Well i hope u can see from my signature what faction i'd like to see playable in E:TW


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    YEAH i hope sweden will be in

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    Isn't The Netherlands to small to fit in the factions list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drumstickNL View Post
    Isn't The Netherlands to small to fit in the factions list?

    They were still a major power at this time,declining true,but still very wealthy with a formidable navy.
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    Well, i see that Sweden and Denmark is in the game, but that makes me wonder how big the map is...If you can be Norway i would like to be them, because then i could start all the way north and go down. And if Iceland is in the map?? i would like to be them... but is Denmark in union with Norway at this time? so Denmark means Norway and Denmark? I am not from scandinavia, or Norway, so that's not why i wanna be Norway... But if they are in the map i would like to be the ones most north, and i like Scandinavians. Also, Can you be Finland?

    EDIT: I don't know if i made this clear, but if denmark is in a union with Norway i have no complains, i don't know much about history so i don't know...
    Last edited by blashger; September 07, 2008 at 07:54 AM. Reason: making a point

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    Quote Originally Posted by blashger View Post
    Well, i see that Sweden and Denmark is in the game, but that makes me wonder how big the map is...If you can be Norway i would like to be them, because then i could start all the way north and go down. And if Iceland is in the map?? i would like to be them... but is Denmark in union with Norway at this time? so Denmark means Norway and Denmark? I am not from scandinavia, or Norway, so that's not why i wanna be Norway... But if they are in the map i would like to be the ones most north, and i like Scandinavians. Also, Can you be Finland?

    EDIT: I don't know if i made this clear, but if denmark is in a union with Norway i have no complains, i don't know much about history so i don't know...
    Well Norway was a part of Denmark and so was Iceland. Finland was a part of Sweden.
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    HRE wont make a lot of sense in the 18th century. (especially since it'll be dismantled during the game's timespan)
    India in some form (or multiple faction India), some african faction (Mali ?), egypt (as a protectorate of the turks), USA (as a protectorate of England, yes its not accurate, but i doubt that the USA wont be playable in the grand campaign for commercial issues, and it wont be the first time we see such abnomalies in a TW game).

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    Quote Originally Posted by zerathule View Post
    HRE wont make a lot of sense in the 18th century. (especially since it'll be dismantled during the game's timespan)
    India in some form (or multiple faction India), some african faction (Mali ?), egypt (as a protectorate of the turks), USA (as a protectorate of England, yes its not accurate, but i doubt that the USA wont be playable in the grand campaign for commercial issues, and it wont be the first time we see such abnomalies in a TW game).
    No that wont decrease sales in the states. Do it right. Don't feel put on the spot or compelled by a certain market or whatever. Many US'ers will enjoy these old maps and other areas fully. I don't even know about half of these old Kingdoms and stuff so I pick up some bits and then learn some stuff about it. They needn't worry about pleasing the states gamers. Its not an issue. Though its disappointing that the Mongol Empire will be laid to rest and no more. RIP Horde.
    Last edited by Mountain_Commander; August 23, 2007 at 02:53 AM.


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