Announcement: CAE 44 Factions Project Cancelled

[Zephrelial]

I'd like to announce that I permanently cancel the project of featuring 44 faction in CAE.I was determined to try this,however a recent discovery just persuaded me that it can't be done... And here is the reason why:


STRAT BANNERS LIMITED FOR 31

Currently I'm creating Kingdom of Georgia faction... I designed strat banners for KOG.. and place it next to the one that belongs to the Abbasids...

Strat banners are the faction banners that the generals and captains carry on the campaign map...

The Abbasids index number was 30,so supposedly and correctly I indicated the index number of the banner of Georgia as 31..

I realized that on the campaign map instead of the Georgian banner that I designed,the Rebels's banner appeared.

So I suspected and this time I overwrote Georgia's to the symbol that has a earlier index which was 27.And this time it worked,the Georgian banner appeared correcltly on the campaign map...

Conclusion,there is a limit on the campaign banners,just as the rumoured faction limit which is 31 at MAX..

In the light of this suppose I create a 32nd faction,for instance County of Tripoli,no matter what I'll do they'll have the rebel banner,the same will go for the 33rd and 34th and so on...

In short this simply won't do... Besides if that is the deal on this particular situation there might be other limits,on the other aspects as well...


PROJECT CANCELLED

[Eranshahr]

Thats sad Zeph. But still somehow positive, as it will render the temptation to play as one of the 44 factions.

But I have a question, does this means Georgia was the last faction? as it's banner nr is 31?

[Ieuano]

there are 28 factions in the game at the moment, Georgia will be 29, so there is space for sweden, dont worry Eranshahr.

It is a real shame about the limit not being able to be broken, there go the asperations of conquereing the world with wales, ah well.

[Zephrelial]

Thats sad Zeph. But still somehow positive, as it will render the temptation to play as one of the 44 factions.

But I have a question, does this means Georgia was the last faction? as it's banner nr is 31?

Unfortunately there is nothing I can do about it,it is HC... No luckily I have space for Georgia,Sweden and the last faction as well,all the spaces are valid for 30 factions and the 31th faction are the rebels.

there are 28 factions in the game at the moment, Georgia will be 29, so there is space for sweden, dont worry Eranshahr.

It is a real shame about the limit not being able to be broken, there go the asperations of conquereing the world with wales, ah well.

Yes a real shame indeed,it seems the 31 faction limit is for real
I will spend the energy I would to make on those factions on making all the new factions I've done sofar and will do detailed and improved as much as I can..

The progress is fast guys..

[Ataegina]

zeph don't worry 31 its enough for a bunch of bloodbaths and betrayals and wars

focus now in georgia and sweden , i'll be my next AAR

[Zephrelial]

zeph don't worry 31 its enough for a bunch of bloodbaths and betrayals and wars

focus now in georgia and sweden , i'll be my next AAR

I've been focused on Georgia for 3 days,luckily I got time so I could focus.. When I focus on making a faction I kind of get obsessed with it and hardly rest until I finish it.

Now the army banners of Georgia are also completed... As for 31 factions this is the limit it seems..

about the last faction, I got an idea that I thought was good.

Before you create that faction, Play the CAE grand campaign, with a faction like Scotland, which doesn't harm anyone actually. and then from that campaign, see how the AI acts, and then you might understand where on the map the new faction is needed, you said you haven't played grand campaign in a very long time, maybe it will give you the next faction if you do.

Good suggestion Eranshahr unfortunately for now I don't have time to play,luckily there is time until the 3rd faction will be decided..

about the last faction, I got an idea that I thought was good.

Before you create that faction, Play the CAE grand campaign, with a faction like Scotland, which doesn't harm anyone actually. and then from that campaign, see how the AI acts, and then you might understand where on the map the new faction is needed, you said you haven't played grand campaign in a very long time, maybe it will give you the next faction if you do.

Good suggestion Eranshahr unfortunately for now I don't have time to play,luckily there is time until the 3rd faction will be decided..

[Eranshahr]

about the last faction, I got an idea that I thought was good.

Before you create that faction, Play the CAE grand campaign, with a faction like Scotland, which doesn't harm anyone actually. and then from that campaign, see how the AI acts, and then you might understand where on the map the new faction is needed, you said you haven't played grand campaign in a very long time, maybe it will give you the next faction if you do.

[firekiller]

perhaps wenn kingdoms comes out the give mods more option to break this

[Zephrelial]

perhaps wenn kingdoms comes out the give mods more option to break this

That seems likely yes...

[Ataegina]

hmmm expansions like Kingdoms ill not give more options (features) how we know we ill just got new camp. and new factions, well the only thing we can use its the new factions

[Eranshahr]

when kingdoms comes out we can use flamethrowers for the Byzantines, and then we can use other units for some factions too, and Maybe the 31 faction limit can be breached, as Firekiller said, maybe you can copy a faction, like Wales or Ireland and use them in the real game.

[Ataegina]

or norway !!!! >_<

why everybody bypass norway, we did so much for europe......kill priests,rape womans,burn churchs......... *sarcasm*

flamethrowers would be nice, also i was wrong theres the army fort (sth about build or sth) !?

[Eranshahr]

yeah moated forsts and new custom battle maps too!

I like Norway, and if it is to be created we doo need a new Norwegian province, like Bergen or Stavanger or something ( where is Stavanger Located?)

I think for the diplomacy, forcing two countries at war to sign a peace agreement would be nice or create soem kind of Personal union, like Poland and Lithuania.

Well I kind of meant after all other things you wanted were done, because that way you see where on the map something is needed. But it is your decision Zeph.
what is left with Georgia? I mean, you do work fast. and that is great, keep up the work dude!

[Ataegina]

Stavanger its south of bergen (south-west) norway

http://www.directferries.de/images/m.../stavanger.gif

[Eranshahr]

Now i remember, and it was as I thought, I just wanted to sound stupid " hey put stavanger in teh game" and then it shows up it is north of Narvik

[Ataegina]

narvik its north....., but if we could expand map to north we should add trondheim

[Eranshahr]

I don't think thats a good idea, to expand the map some provinces must be smaller and then it might cause a slower game and many CTD's.

I know where Narvik is, I learned it when I was 11, I watched discovery Civilization about how Hitler captured Denmark and Norway, Norway was brave, Denmark, two hours of fighting and after 2 days it was captured, and then it turned Nazi-friendly.

[Zephrelial]

I don't think thats a good idea, to expand the map some provinces must be smaller and then it might cause a slower game and many CTD's.

I know where Narvik is, I learned it when I was 11, I watched discovery Civilization about how Hitler captured Denmark and Norway, Norway was brave, Denmark, two hours of fighting and after 2 days it was captured, and then it turned Nazi-friendly.

There is the good point.When kb8 added the regions I was worried that it would call CTD's,lagging or long waiting time between turns.None of these happened because the map wasn't extended..

Now that there are more and more stuff added into the mod extending the map is a high risk that could effect the stability of the mod drastically.

[Ataegina]

Narvik was a estrategic point, with OIL , well norway wasn't prepared and doesn't have a prof. army at time, also we've count with england and france, but england have sent just light troops... no air support no heavy guns... so defeat....

well denmark was brave too, making the jews flee to sweden without nazis knowing ...they've save many lifes

[Eranshahr]

brave maybe, But didn't Norway survive for 5 months? or was is 2. maybe 1? i don't remember

Denmark quickly got a Nazi government with public support, and then afterwards they treated Germans that fled to Denmark as ****, and even though it was germans, they were fellow humans, and the Germans were more against the Nazis than anybody else during the last years.

Sweden was heroic in my opinion, saving jews, Danes and norwegians, also other peoples, this is how Immigration started, and afterwards both West Germany and Sweden wanted more people to move to Sweden/West germany.
btw did you know Iran and saudi arabia entered the war against Germany?

still back to teh main point of this thread, I think it was good in some way that the 44 factions ide didn't work, why? I don't know, something just tell me I was to be very frustrated not being able to play as the unplayable factions